tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post148637351966189049..comments2023-10-23T09:23:22.051-04:00Comments on Your Schools: Civil rights lawyers joining anti-testing forces in CMSUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-5891176509360558182012-11-11T04:06:35.753-05:002012-11-11T04:06:35.753-05:008:12 I have no Privatization plans, just competiti...8:12 I have no Privatization plans, just competition that will make all the schools stronger. Large tankers of fish that were caught off the coast had fish which would just quit swimming once they were in the tankers. They tried all the expensive mechanical ideas they could but the fish would arrive in large numbers dead. Then a old fisherman told them to place a shark in the tank and the few fish that the shark would devour would cost less than the numbers lost. The rest is history and now called the shark in the fish tank. The idea is that you can get people and organizations moving and if we ever needed an organization moving it is CMS.Shannon Harrishttp://www.plurk.com/p/he387enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-21477411294442662562011-08-10T01:12:05.440-04:002011-08-10T01:12:05.440-04:00Since every child can not succeed then no one shou...Since every child can not succeed then no one should be tested.. Read the fall of Rome. we are soo in trouble there has to be goals set and achieved for society to be successful not goals no success<br />SorryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-83630846424853690312011-08-09T10:29:27.445-04:002011-08-09T10:29:27.445-04:00Anon 6:14...
Skyping into board meetings when I&#...Anon 6:14...<br /><br />Skyping into board meetings when I'm 3 hours behind on the west coast wouldn't work.<br /><br />When meetings are held in the afternoon or early evening here, I'm still working out west.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-31430212371267461272011-08-09T06:14:44.529-04:002011-08-09T06:14:44.529-04:00Wylie, I think you could skype into school board m...Wylie, I think you could skype into school board meetings if you were elected.....just saying.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-43197327459512368932011-08-08T20:07:54.001-04:002011-08-08T20:07:54.001-04:00Anon 5:51...
Not for a second do I feel CMS is ho...Anon 5:51...<br /><br />Not for a second do I feel CMS is hopeless.<br /><br />Having said that, unless there are drastic changes in mindset and raising the bar of what is acceptable, then nothing will change.<br /><br />Look at last year.<br /><br />We supposedly had a $100 million dollar shortfall. Gorman wanted to cut Bright Beginnings, a wasteful program put in place by a prior educrat that we've funded to the tune of tens of millions of dollars that even he said didn't work.<br /><br />The BOE handed it off to the County yet funding found its way back to keep it going. Status quo.<br /><br />CMS implemented a pay to play sports scheme that bilks money from about half the students while the other half play for free, which is based on fraudulent numbers. Some BOE members and parents begged for money to keep middle school sports going while the prospect of teachers being laid off was imminent. The turn a blind eye to school lunch fraud which drives free sports and testing. Status quo.<br /><br />Politicians and educrats want to put the onus on teachers for THEIR failures in implementing sound changes in what they have been doing terribly for 40 years.<br /><br />Education and the business of it needs to be broken down to basics.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-63856092850502790572011-08-08T18:21:46.849-04:002011-08-08T18:21:46.849-04:00If Wiley got enough other board members to the way...If Wiley got enough other board members to the way of thinking of turning this school system around, he could do it. Clearly, we know what does not work. Clearly what this board lacks is the will and the backbone to run this school system efficently, effectively, and with integrity. Loud ignorant people must be politely ignored. <br /><br />The problem is how the districts are made up gives the wrong people the power.therestofthestorynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-11028038004685391032011-08-08T18:18:13.560-04:002011-08-08T18:18:13.560-04:008:12 I have no Privatization plans, just competiti...8:12 I have no Privatization plans, just competition that will make all the schools stronger.<br /><br />Large tankers of fish that were caught off the coast had fish which would just quit swimming once they were in the tankers.<br /><br />They tried all the expensive mechanical ideas they could but the fish would arrive in large numbers dead.<br /><br />Then a old fisherman told them to place a shark in the tank and the few fish that the shark would devour would cost less than the numbers lost. <br /><br />The rest is history and now called the shark in the fish tank. <br /><br />The idea is that you can get people and organizations moving and if we ever needed an organization moving it is CMS.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07977808657926308272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-23484177042819800312011-08-08T17:51:10.672-04:002011-08-08T17:51:10.672-04:00Wiley, It's good that you care about these iss...Wiley, It's good that you care about these issues. But your main theme seems to be that CMS is hopeless. You seem to say there's nothing that anybody is doing that can improve CMS. <br /><br />Is this accurate and if so, do you think that platform would be hopeful enough to get you elected to the BOE?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-54101880285151218152011-08-08T14:57:56.947-04:002011-08-08T14:57:56.947-04:00Anon 2:24...
Thanks for the vote of confidence.
...Anon 2:24...<br /><br />Thanks for the vote of confidence.<br /><br />I've been asked by many to run for the past several years. But due to the travel requirements of my job (out about 50 nights per year), it would be impossible for me to attend meetings and do the job effectively.<br /><br />Perhaps at some other point in time I'll consider it if travel requirements ease, but since my travel is to our last remaining expansion markets, I don't see that happening anytime soon.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-13431732055572289522011-08-08T14:24:36.519-04:002011-08-08T14:24:36.519-04:00Wylie....I would vote for you for school board.......Wylie....I would vote for you for school board....Please consider it!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-44223694520637303862011-08-08T13:15:19.278-04:002011-08-08T13:15:19.278-04:00Teacher are not nor have they ever been, "the...Teacher are not nor have they ever been, "the problem"....<br /><br />Look at it this way.<br /><br />Back in the 80's when Chrysler came out with K-cars, they were very inferior products. The computer chip that ran the car would constantly go bad and have to be replaced at a cost of about $300 each. Other problems kept these cars constantly in the shop.<br />My company had about 100 of these on the road.<br /><br />Chrysler had a Board of Directors, a President/CEO, Vice Presidents, middle management, designers and line workers who assembled the cars.<br /><br />CMS is similar. We have a Board of Directors (BOE), a President/CEO (Superintendent), VPs, (Clark, Hattabaugh, etc), middle management (district Superintendents, Principals) and line workers (teachers.<br /><br />Now, think about the lousy cars Chrysler produced. <br /><br />IS it the fault of the line workers who put them together or is it the 3rd party parts suppliers or the design team and marketing whose programs were signed off on by upper management?<br /><br />IS it the fault of teachers for bad management of upper management or bad parts in the form of students and parents?<br /><br />Like the line workers at Chrysler, teachers are implementers. <br /><br />They follow policy and deal with what they are given to work with.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-32158228032871687582011-08-08T13:02:24.113-04:002011-08-08T13:02:24.113-04:00If you want to hold teachers accoutnable for what ...If you want to hold teachers accoutnable for what goes on in the classroom then you have to be willing to give them the responsibility to have some control. In too many cases, adminstrators are returning uncivil students to the classroom making a mockery of the teacher's authority. When what is really needed is to have the student and their family unit "committed" to the county's mental health care unit for therapy. The student can then only be returned to their regularly assigned school following a minimum 6 month sabbatical and necessary certifications to have been theraputically cured and then subjeted to weekly evaluations by the school staff. And the school staff must be overwhelmingly convinced of their "cure" to remain in that school or sent to an alternative school. Soem of the sabbatical may be served in an alternative school. <br /><br />Bottom line, do not forget the old saying, "one bad apple can spoil the barrel."<br /><br />When the adminstration simply "disses" the teacher but just returning the perpetrator back to the classroom with no consequences, the teacher essentially loses control and face with the rest of the students.therestofthestorynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-81299302152178364922011-08-08T13:01:42.235-04:002011-08-08T13:01:42.235-04:00Well said, Wiley. I agree that it's probably ...Well said, Wiley. I agree that it's probably too late to deconsolidate.<br />However, maybe we could just lop off District 4 (Tom Tate's district, home of the East Meck folks who are always happy to move other people's children and of the Meck ACTs movers and shakers). This would remove a large block of agitators from the school board meetings--might even be able to reason with Richard McElrath and Joyce Waddell without them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-45132638990141214082011-08-08T11:21:15.535-04:002011-08-08T11:21:15.535-04:00Agree that is a big problem for our community. Med...Agree that is a big problem for our community. Media and other give squeeky wheels too much play. We have much great for CMS and CLT Meck. We should be proud of, appreciate, and support the work with Broad and Gates and other of that significance.That's what makes us better and advances us. Make smart education a priority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-78057523202936135682011-08-08T10:52:28.660-04:002011-08-08T10:52:28.660-04:00Larry,
Our public education system can be fixed, ...Larry,<br /><br />Our public education system can be fixed, but not until we face the real issues that have run the system into the ground for 40 years. <br /><br />The problem is, people really don't want to discuss them.<br /><br />We've spent 40 years trying to achieve integration with mediocre success yet some people still fight to keep it.<br /><br />We have the NAACP running its mouth at every turn yet they do NOTHING to help advance education in the Black community, only hinder it. <br /><br />We have educrats who are constantly implementing their own pet projects to make a name for themselves that many times don't work yet we keep funding them. Bright Beginnings is a prime example of wasteful spending on tens of millions of dollars.<br /><br />Politicians, our BOE and many others, don't want to tackle these issues for fear of being labeled a racist. <br /><br />Until people acknowledge that it doesn't matter what skin color you have, what your household income is or where you live and that learning is universal, nothing will change.<br /><br />Until CMS stops gerrymangering magnets and school boundaries and gets over the fact people live where they live, nothing will change. The end product is education and if you’re doing your job, it doesn’t matter what school you attend.<br /><br />Until all of us decide education is a top priority and hold parents accountable for their children's actions in school and all parents understand they are culpable as well, nothing will change.<br /><br />Deconsolidation and charter schools is just smoke and mirrors. No different than a snake oil salesman telling you his elixir will cure your all your ills...Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-85380110530053986352011-08-08T10:27:55.774-04:002011-08-08T10:27:55.774-04:00The NAACP needs to have a meeting among its varied...The NAACP needs to have a meeting among its varied "colored" constituents (assuming they are not truly single-colored) to see why some "colors" are doing better than others.<br /><br />Especially when the "colors" doing better often have the handicap of English being their family's second language.<br /><br />Once they figure that "gap" out, then they'll be better prepared to address the "grave inequities" they seem to think are leading to one particular color's "genocide", while apparently helping all other colors.<br /><br />But, I'll never see the day when the NAACP finally admits that their favored "color" just needs to straighten up, fly right, and work harder.<br /><br />Gosh, our whole economy just might improve overnight without all the slackers out there getting by on the largess of everyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-75472334481270356442011-08-08T10:04:45.233-04:002011-08-08T10:04:45.233-04:00When the NAACP is involved, it is ALWAYS about rac...When the NAACP is involved, it is ALWAYS about race.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-59717473167434406932011-08-08T08:58:28.555-04:002011-08-08T08:58:28.555-04:00I think most would be happy for this and other sch...I think most would be happy for this and other schools issues not to be presented as a racial issue or urban versus suburban. But who has been doing that?<br /><br /> We have advocates who routinely stand up at the school board meetings and talk about educational apartheid, "resegregation", the unfairness of it all. Some of these same people have a nice little dog and pony show that they have taken on the road to civic groups (League of Women Voters, Tuesday Morning Breakfast Club, Raleigh TV station, etc). We also have had groups like the Community Building Initiative, well funded in the past by our tax dollars, that continue to tell the minority community how mistreated they are. <br />These groups have been abetted by some in the media who long ignored suburban issues or portrayed them as "selfish" issues. <br /><br />For many years there was definitely only one way that school issues were examined in this city and that was the urban versus suburban slant, with suburbanites being cast as the bad guys. We're paying the price for that now (and perhaps so is The Observer, with declining subscriptions).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-40090093287972347712011-08-08T08:29:18.230-04:002011-08-08T08:29:18.230-04:00People, don't make this issue about race or su...People, don't make this issue about race or suburban vs urban schools. That's not what this is, and that doesn't help advance CMS or this dialogue. The issue, like poster said above, is change (dare we say reform) or keeping everything the same. I for one am pleased that CMS laid out a roadmap for change in the 2014 goals. (More than those tests...) It takes bold action like that to move CMS ahead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-83907662774222637742011-08-08T08:12:35.298-04:002011-08-08T08:12:35.298-04:00Larry,
Schools like your Achievement schools and...Larry, <br /><br />Schools like your Achievement schools and KIPP aren't cure alls.<br /><br />They have problems, too. <br /><br />Some of the KIPP schools just flat out are not working. And their dropout rates are excessive for black students.<br /><br />Google "KIPP failure" and you'll find a few examples.<br /><br />So, even if they aren't "cherry picking", they are "cherry pruning", which is essentially the same thing.<br /><br />Where do those kids go? Back into the "old" system, don't you think.<br /><br />Don't be so gullible just because it furthers your privatization agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-49038995166973242352011-08-08T07:57:05.256-04:002011-08-08T07:57:05.256-04:00Note to NAACP:
While you're at it...
How abo...Note to NAACP:<br /><br />While you're at it...<br /><br />How about telling those kids it's OK to "act white" and study for a change.<br /><br />Worth a shot, eh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-23458330001572044422011-08-08T07:51:04.885-04:002011-08-08T07:51:04.885-04:00The NAACP is marching against "Educational Ge...The NAACP is marching against "Educational Genocide".<br /><br />Shouldn't that be "Suicide"?<br /><br />After all, blacks are mostly doing this to themselves.<br /><br />Put any other "race" of kid in the same school and they will do better<br />(as documented by the "performance gap") time after time.<br /><br />It's not the schools, it's the kids and their parents.<br /><br />And the entitlement "attitude" that organizations like the NAACP have helped propagate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-52549350540059113992011-08-08T06:57:38.223-04:002011-08-08T06:57:38.223-04:00Charter Schools only and Deconsolidation will not ...Charter Schools only and Deconsolidation will not work? <br /><br />Oh the zero sum game being played by those who do not want something offered to the parents.<br /><br />You know how that works in the World folks. <br /><br />They make it so that you only have one choice and that is it.<br /><br />Why not choices in your schools? A charter in your neighborhood and a public school both working for your voucher/scholarship. How is that so disagreeable to them and the status quo? <br /><br />Notice how they don't want the changes but fight them instead of offering the real changes that would make one thing we need........Education.<br /><br />We know what is not working, our current system. <br /><br />Any new ideas out there other than more of the same and holding on to the same failing remnants.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07977808657926308272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-1412708588033866902011-08-08T05:49:40.236-04:002011-08-08T05:49:40.236-04:00“YOU SAY TOMATO, I SAY TOMATO. LET’S CALL THE WHOL...“YOU SAY TOMATO, I SAY TOMATO. LET’S CALL THE WHOLE THING OFF.”<br /><br /><br />Advancement Project says it may use Portfolio Style Assessments. Lawdy, lawdy where did that term come from? You guessed it – Wall Street. <br /><br />This is just another Return on Investment analysis tool straight out of the mutual fund world. If you hated CMS’ version of ROI, will you love what a bunch of DC lawyers will do with it? An explanation of the process is available from Morningstar by Googling: “estimating portfolio style in U.S.”<br /> <br />After I got through reading the link, it sounded a whole lot like the Pay-for-Performance justifications we heard at the school board meetings this past winter and spring.<br /><br />Get ready for the educational version of Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers. <br /><br /><br />Bolyn McClung<br />NextSuper.com<br />PinevilleBolynMcClunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02938579006144446381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-53723660266234306082011-08-08T05:44:01.801-04:002011-08-08T05:44:01.801-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.BolynMcClunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02938579006144446381noreply@blogger.com