tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post3525189915522814707..comments2023-10-23T09:23:22.051-04:00Comments on Your Schools: A community of watchdogsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-79719708928487333832011-06-28T17:47:06.811-04:002011-06-28T17:47:06.811-04:00I have been posting comments on the Observer since...I have been posting comments on the Observer since early 2007. It surprised me when Gorman and former Mayor McCrory all took nearly verbatim my Observer posted comments on CMS and used them as their own on WFAE and NPR radio shows. Other bloggers, commenters have also echoed things posted before. Much of the criticism and thinking is moving in the right direction. But I don't see any staff acting on it yet. Griping alone is damaging. We have to follow through.Namelessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-49194924719323738792011-06-27T22:35:44.601-04:002011-06-27T22:35:44.601-04:00Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-24467347774901772622011-06-27T20:47:53.817-04:002011-06-27T20:47:53.817-04:00Woah. Tweetie's a dude?! I dressed up as Twee...Woah. Tweetie's a dude?! I dressed up as Tweetie Bird in kindergarten for Halloween, female form. Long before senstors started tweeting their twits. That's all folks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-80141284222927715632011-06-27T20:22:41.801-04:002011-06-27T20:22:41.801-04:00Wiley Wabbit,
So who is the wizard behind the cur...Wiley Wabbit, <br />So who is the wizard behind the curtain in the Land of Oz?<br /><br />DorothyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-45264826613189692972011-06-27T15:44:25.914-04:002011-06-27T15:44:25.914-04:00It is too bad that Pamela and other media personal...It is too bad that Pamela and other media personalities cannot seem to have a civil conversation with those who don't see it her way. Personal attacks and nastiness will get us nowhere. I wish some of these demogogues could use their "power for good" and encourage the distillation of tough conversations within a civil and respectful atmosphere. If Charlotte is truly going to address, and hopefully resolve, some of our toughest issues, we need to create a welcoming environment where honest opinions can be put on the table without the risk of personal retribution from those who think they know better! Why can't we just all get along?thinspace@aol.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-67026082043390851612011-06-27T15:26:55.267-04:002011-06-27T15:26:55.267-04:00For a long time I thought Tweety Bird was the only...For a long time I thought Tweety Bird was the only female Looney Tunes character (Bugs in drag doesn't count), but then someone told me the bird is a dude, too!Ann Doss Helmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511764376105157616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-57321333433948248542011-06-27T14:56:43.532-04:002011-06-27T14:56:43.532-04:00Ann,
All male here.
If Wile E. Coyote is female,...Ann,<br /><br />All male here.<br /><br />If Wile E. Coyote is female, I need to go back to childhood and untraumatize myself.... <br /><br />We've never met but I have seen you a couple of times at school meetings I attended.<br /><br />I'll send you info sometime today or tonight.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-18751770824454265092011-06-27T14:42:35.383-04:002011-06-27T14:42:35.383-04:00Wiley, I'm assuming you are NOT the person I w...Wiley, I'm assuming you are NOT the person I was referring to (in fact, I assume you're male, thought I guess the pseudonym could be misleading). I don't need your ID but I am curious. Feel free to email me with an introduction. I'm not sure who at the O has your info but I'd feel pretty silly running around the building asking "Do you know Wiley Coyote?" If it's somehow available via your registration, well, you know by now how tech-savvy I am.Ann Doss Helmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511764376105157616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-22280061675793984542011-06-27T14:25:36.178-04:002011-06-27T14:25:36.178-04:00Ann,
anytime you want my name, address and phone ...Ann,<br /><br />anytime you want my name, address and phone number, it is available to you.<br /><br />Regardless of whether I post my name on this blog is irrelevant. My opinions are the same and I would tell them to anyone face to face.<br /><br />The Observer has my email and if they need to contact me for any reason, they can.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-62092321832421777892011-06-27T13:57:51.378-04:002011-06-27T13:57:51.378-04:00Pamela Grundy's comments carry weight on this ...Pamela Grundy's comments carry weight on this blog because Pamela uses her real name which is more than I can say for anyone else except Boyln McClung who could also be accused of using this space as a pulpit. <br /><br />This certainly doesn't mean I agree with Pam on every school related issue but I admire her hutzpah. Love her or leave her, she walks the talk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-49307096072858668182011-06-27T13:38:24.333-04:002011-06-27T13:38:24.333-04:00Pamela Grundy indeed gets a huge amount of attenti...Pamela Grundy indeed gets a huge amount of attention on this blog -- most of it from commenters, pro or con. I learned about her trip to Asia via her response to another commenter's question weeks ago. Because she is one of the few who identifies herself by name, I felt comfortable following up on a commenter's question about her.<br /><br />I am virtually certain that some of all of the anonymous "why does Ann fixate on Pam" comments are coming from someone with whom I have virtually the same relationship I have with Pam. We've corresponded and talked frequently over the years because of her interest in education, and some of those exachanges have included friendly "what have you been up to lately?" chatter.<br /><br />This person specifically told me she chooses to post anonymously because she does not like being the target of some of the vigorous personal commentary that goes on. So I will honor that. I will also note that she sent me so many "why don't you look into this about Pam" emails that I had to inform her that I just can't devote as much time and energy to Pam Grundy as she does. That remains true.Ann Doss Helmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511764376105157616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-91140997141252149272011-06-27T13:04:32.687-04:002011-06-27T13:04:32.687-04:00Anon 12:11
To you it may not seem quite right but...Anon 12:11<br /><br />To you it may not seem quite right but Pam has made herself a public crusader (of her opinions) and this blog has given her the pulpit in which to preach.<br /><br />In light of that, many of us put forth our opinions in opposition to hers.<br /><br />I don't question Pam's dedication to her son's education or the school he attends. But when her opinions are given weight by this blog and continuously out there in print, I'm going to voice MY opposition to the ones I feel try to maintain the status quo and continue to throw good money after bad in a public school system that is and has been broken for decades.<br /><br />Busing, the failed social experiment that lasted 40 years.<br /><br />Separate but equal had to be dismantled, no question about it, but the ensuing option of busing soley to achieve integration killed public education.<br /><br />My school district was interested in only one thing, that I was White and they needed me to be bused to what had been a traditionally all Black school. They didn't care anything about my education.<br /><br />I lived farther away from that school than the school I would have gone to prior to several boundary changes, because most Whites either moved or put their kids in private school. This meant dropping lines farther and farther out from the Black schools.<br /><br />Only two high schools offered in-depth electronics programs, which I had signed up for through my counselor in junior high. <br /><br />The school district didn't care. They told my father I would have to do something else and it wasn't until he threatened a lawsuit, which he would have pursued, did they relent and give me an exemption.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-79968608200216090062011-06-27T12:11:02.251-04:002011-06-27T12:11:02.251-04:00While it may not seem quite right to be critiquing...While it may not seem quite right to be critiquing Pamela on this blog, we should remember that she has put herself out there and that Ann (as well as the Observer editorial page) has used her quite frequently as a resource. Also, some may not know that she has been quite vocal recently in Wake County concerning their school situation, painting a dire picture of what will happen to their community if they cease busing.<br /><br /> She and Louise Wood appeared on a Raleigh TV station in February (http://www2.nbc17.com/news/2011/feb/07/neighborhood-schools-charlotte-10-years-later-ar-763038/). During this news conference she declared that Shamrock Gardens was a successful middle class neighborhood school until busing ended, a comment which is surprising when one learns that the 1997 Committee of 33 report on Shamrock describes it as a "predominately black school" with "shocking conditions". <br /><br /> The year before she wrote an opinion piece for the News Observer describing what a terrible place Charlotte had become with the demise of busing. She described discord and anxiety producing assignment hearings. No mention though of the discord and the terrible assignment hearings here during the busing years. <br /><br />Pam has been a dedicated parent at Shamrock Gardens and I'm sure has helped many children succeed. She was quite successful in rallying parents throughout the county against PFP and against Peter Gorman. But she has another agenda as well, one that Ann never mentions and that Pam herself avoids mentioning on this blog unless really pressed. If she's going to be Ann's main go-to person, then it seems that readers should be aware of all that she is working towards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-28963956836758992062011-06-27T09:18:32.909-04:002011-06-27T09:18:32.909-04:00Anon 8:44
I posted the comments I was looking for...Anon 8:44<br /><br />I posted the comments I was looking for in my last post.<br /><br />I'll post them again so you can see for yourself she has no desire to interact with her neighbors because "she doesn't want to know them because they don't send THEIR kids to "her" school...<br /><br /><b>As I ride my own bike, or labor in my garden, I see them through the lens of segregation.<br /><br /><i>All I know – or really care to know – about them is that they will never pass the threshold of our school.</i></b>Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-50842909623690762752011-06-27T08:44:14.930-04:002011-06-27T08:44:14.930-04:00Wiley,
From 1:06 PM
The thought of defending Pam...Wiley, <br />From 1:06 PM<br /><br />The thought of defending Pamela without Pamela is almost laughable so I'll keep my opinions brief. Forced busing was a failed experiment which contributed to a school system that is now 33% white with over a 51% economically disadvantaged population with wealthier students concentrated at a small percentage of CMS's 178 schools. The demographic makeup of CMS no longer reflects the demographic makeup of Charlotte. The complexities of race and class in the Queen City are just that - complex. Our own African-American Democrat mayor has his daughter enrolled in private school. <br /><br /><br />However, regarding Pamela's comment;<br /><br />"So much that's done these days in the name of charity is a drop-in, drop-out affair – people reaching out to low-income children while remaining rooted in their own, comfortable schools and neighborhoods".<br /><br />Is this comment contemptuous or does it speak a painful truth? Like most people who post here, I wish I had the answers, but I don't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-61576478664446515672011-06-26T22:54:01.821-04:002011-06-26T22:54:01.821-04:00Hmmmm---and others have been accused of being obse...Hmmmm---and others have been accused of being obsessively concerned about busing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-74441970209200920192011-06-26T21:33:19.526-04:002011-06-26T21:33:19.526-04:00Anon 4:07
Thanks, I had missed that one post...
...Anon 4:07<br /><br />Thanks, I had missed that one post...<br /><br /><b><i>Our neighborhood is now full of young white couples, and of light-skinned children perched in strollers, riding bikes, dashing wildly down the streets.<br /><br />As I ride my own bike, or labor in my garden, I see them through the lens of segregation.<br /><br />All I know – or really care to know – about them is that they will never pass the threshold of our school.</i></b>Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-47168672602162759842011-06-26T16:07:34.248-04:002011-06-26T16:07:34.248-04:00Wiley,
It appears you have to go to this link: ht...Wiley,<br />It appears you have to go to this link: http://seenfromtherock.blogspot.com/, then scroll down to archives and go to Black History Month. <br /><br />Your last post presents the point quite well, but I think this post is particularly interesting. Makes her position quite clear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-11523563574363721822011-06-26T14:29:46.999-04:002011-06-26T14:29:46.999-04:00Anon 2:17...
I show that link as dead, so maybe t...Anon 2:17...<br /><br />I show that link as dead, so maybe that's why I can't find it.<br /><br />I think with my last post, they'll get the point.<br /><br />Thanks...Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-35412168307583373582011-06-26T14:28:29.461-04:002011-06-26T14:28:29.461-04:00Anon 1:06
Refute it all you want but the comments...Anon 1:06<br /><br />Refute it all you want but the comments came from her own blog and other postings.<br /><br />She's made comments as to children in her neighborhood (who are assigned to Shamrock Gardens) going to other schools instead of supporting the one SHE chose to send her child to.<br /><br />She also likes to state the fact her son's school was the highest funded in the system yet gets indignant when Myers Park Traditional was saved over Oakhurst because of "favoritism".<br /><br />Read enough of her posts and you'll see what I'm talking about.<br /><br />Here's one favorite comment:<br /><br /><i>Over the years, we've had a number of neighborhood parents who have come in every week to tutor Shamrock children, while sending their own kids to more privileged schools.</i><br /><br />Yet HER school is the most funded in the system?<br /><br />Here's another gem:<br /><br /><i>So much that's done these days in the name of charity is a drop-in, drop-out affair – people reaching out to low-income children while remaining rooted in their own, comfortable schools and neighborhoods.</i><br /><br />After you've read much of her postings, you realize it's all about class and what other parents do different than what she and her husband decided for their child.<br /><br />She fails to get her position carries no more weight than mine or yours and what we decide for our childrens is no different than what she chooses for hers.<br /><br />I'm still trying to find the one blog about "her neighborhood kids not going to the neighborhood school".<br /><br />When I find it, I'll post it.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-228217464986365072011-06-26T14:17:25.875-04:002011-06-26T14:17:25.875-04:001:06
Go to http://seenfromtherock.blogspot.com/201...1:06<br />Go to http://seenfromtherock.blogspot.com/2010_03_01_archive.html.<br />Scroll down to blog titled Black History Month. Read the entire entry, and especially note the second to the last paragraph.<br /><br />I believe this is what Wiley is referring to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-842338186857670572011-06-26T13:06:33.001-04:002011-06-26T13:06:33.001-04:00Wiley,
I refute your assertion that "one of ...Wiley,<br /><br />I refute your assertion that "one of Ann's favorites" has contempt towards her neighbors (and I'm assuming you mean others) who send their children to private and magnets schools and not to "her" school. This simply isn't true.<br /><br />- Public school parent, private school parent, magnet school graduate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-24291359459597108402011-06-25T12:35:26.590-04:002011-06-25T12:35:26.590-04:00Wiley,
Ann's favorite is not alone in favoring...Wiley,<br />Ann's favorite is not alone in favoring a return to busing. See http://www.swannfellowship.org/. Little doubt about what agenda Steve Johnston wants our new superintendent to have. <br />While many on this board celebrate the end of Dr. Gorman's superintendency I hope they will be very wary of what some of their "leaders" really want for CMS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-5966900452678715802011-06-25T11:49:42.751-04:002011-06-25T11:49:42.751-04:00"Reform" to some parents is a return to ..."Reform" to some parents is a return to busing.<br /><br />One of Ann's favorites on here supports busing to achieve integration but her problem in achieving that goal is the fact there aren't enough whites left in the system to do it.<br /><br />This same person has contempt towards her neightbors who send their kids to private schools and magnets and not to "her" school.<br /><br />What she fails to get is that those parents, like her, made a <b>choice</b> for their kids and what they felt was in their best interest.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-37112823960755899212011-06-25T11:29:48.795-04:002011-06-25T11:29:48.795-04:00Sorry, Wiley. My question about opposition to pub...Sorry, Wiley. My question about opposition to public schools was actually directed at 9:57. <br /><br />Again, regarding your 10:10 comment--well said.<br /><br />Still waiting to hear if Ann is going to keep us up to date on everyone's summer plans and computer access.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com