tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post4026062749665453441..comments2023-10-23T09:23:22.051-04:00Comments on Your Schools: South suburbs buzzing about CMSUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-36924575366981900842012-02-07T01:09:30.717-05:002012-02-07T01:09:30.717-05:00Upton Sinclair
Really? Are we all going to commun...Upton Sinclair<br /><br />Really? Are we all going to communist now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-91162568317046919172012-02-06T11:32:12.677-05:002012-02-06T11:32:12.677-05:00First, lack of data supporting the effectiveness o...First, lack of data supporting the effectiveness of CIS is not proof that CIS does NOT work or that it's only a "feel good" program. It simply means the jury is out. Not that I'm defending the relationship between CMS & CIS. (See below.)<br /><br />Secondly, let me remind all suburbanites criticizing funding for high-poverty schools that many of the decision-makers for the funding and partnerships are your fellow suburbanites. Unfortunately, these already disadvantaged children in the West corridor are being used as pawns in the political pandering of both CMS and CIS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-4650011239793052262012-02-05T07:53:48.062-05:002012-02-05T07:53:48.062-05:005PM, you and those of your stripes just love ignor...5PM, you and those of your stripes just love ignoring. <br /><br />People are upset with the schools, only because they dislike them.<br /><br />People will or will not vote for Obama just for one reason this time.<br /><br />When will it ever be about the results?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-10201456452167261472012-02-04T18:20:50.805-05:002012-02-04T18:20:50.805-05:00Folks from Missouri is a reference to their motto ...Folks from Missouri is a reference to their motto "The SHOW ME state"...<br /><br />Not the crappy school situation they have in KC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-80834765926523667792012-02-03T17:26:15.974-05:002012-02-03T17:26:15.974-05:00Unfortunately folks from Missouri brought us the s...Unfortunately folks from Missouri brought us the sorry spectacle of the Kansas City School District (Kansas City, MO). Millions upon millions spent on the system (taken over by the state) and absolutely nothing to show for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-53620168156875865172012-02-03T16:32:00.075-05:002012-02-03T16:32:00.075-05:00This is the last paragraph from a story in America...This is the last paragraph from a story in American Spectator last year titled <b>Meet The Suburban Parents</b>...<br /><br /><i>...Suburban parents are unlikely to ever give up their luxuriously appointed classrooms and handsome athletic fields, but, as Upton Sinclair discovered almost a century ago, they will be the first to remedy a clear demonstration of local dysfunction, especially when coupled with options for improvement. If any force has the potential to reform the traditional public school, it is the righteous indignation of a rudely awakened upper-middle class.</i><br /><br />http://spectator.org/archives/2011/06/30/meet-the-suburban-parents/Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-60825368886064047732012-02-03T16:29:04.360-05:002012-02-03T16:29:04.360-05:00Anonymous - February 2, 2012 6:55 PM
"Suburb...Anonymous - February 2, 2012 6:55 PM<br /><br />"Suburban schools will always perform beyond urban ones. So, money filtered to urban schools is ill-effective. "<br /><br />Aside from the obvious problems with this statement, don't you think simply performing beyond urban schools is setting the bar a little too low?<br /><br />I mean if that's the goal of our educational system, then we are doomed.<br /><br />Let's aim a little higher than that.<br /><br />I'm sure money sent to suburban schools will help them just as much as it helps the urban schools.<br /><br />If not more...<br /><br />Otherwise, let's cut ALL their budgets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-38243754843969343022012-02-03T14:37:06.571-05:002012-02-03T14:37:06.571-05:00Because there will be no concensus as to how to do...Because there will be no concensus as to how to do it.<br /><br />When you have buckets of money coming from multiple sources and those sources are primarily predicated on school lunch numbers, there will be disagreements as to how you fund each carved out piece of CMS.<br /><br />Those groups who I am sure would oppose any breakup of CMS will argue those points.<br /><br />What do you do with magnets? Do you continue to use them as a means of intergating schools?<br /><br /><b>A school system is either a dual system, which is segregated, or unitary, which is desegregated. <br /><br />Six of the areas analyzed for Unitary Status, called the Green factors, were established in the 1968 Supreme Court case of Green vs. Country School Board of New Kent County, Virginia. <br /><br />The Green case held that a school district has achieved Unitary Status when it is devoid of racial discrimination in regards to six areas: faculty, staff, transportation, extracurricular activities, facilities, and pupil assignment. A seventh area, quality of education, was later recognized by the Supreme Court in Freeman vs. Pitts (1992). </b><br /><br />Any major changes in school vboundaries and funding would most certainly trigger scrutiny from many groups.<br /><br />My question to you is, how would you carve up CMS in a way everyone would be happy and pass judicial muster?Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-17934437016448817882012-02-03T14:01:35.756-05:002012-02-03T14:01:35.756-05:00Wiley, you didn't really answer the question.
...Wiley, you didn't really answer the question.<br /><br />I agree with the following:<br /><br /><b>CMS needs to get in the business of educating all K-12 students to their ability, spend the money where needed to help those who truly need the remedial help and get out of bed with social engineers.</b><br /><br />Why couldn't this happen if CMS was broken into smaller districts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-21160772132873767142012-02-03T11:04:39.924-05:002012-02-03T11:04:39.924-05:00CMS needs to get in the business of educating all ...CMS needs to get in the business of educating all K-12 students to their ability, spend the money where needed to help those who truly need the remedial help and get out of bed with social engineers. <br /><br />Educate ALL children the same.<br /><br />Put all of the pieces in place; good teachers, technology and other infrastructure and then if kids don't get it, they just don't get and move on.<br /><br />It's time to eliminate excuses.<br /><br />Get tough and tell parents this is the dawn of a new day. Even though you may come from an environment of poverty as defined by the government or you don't have but an 8th grade education yourself, those are no excuses as to why your child can't learn and have the manners and respect to come to school and be productive.<br /><br />There are groups like Swann and the NAACP who will not allow CMS to be carved up.<br /><br />Carving up CMS is will NOT be effient. It might make some people feel better but it will be a waste of time and money.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-57299224422858180482012-02-03T10:19:26.507-05:002012-02-03T10:19:26.507-05:009:36, WC is not opposed. He understands the polit...9:36, WC is not opposed. He understands the politcal climate that will not let it happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-53611795010751672712012-02-03T09:36:00.698-05:002012-02-03T09:36:00.698-05:00Wiley, I am curious to know why you would be so op...Wiley, I am curious to know why you would be so opposed to CMS being broken up into smaller districts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-49080005824305859252012-02-03T08:39:54.799-05:002012-02-03T08:39:54.799-05:00Sharon...
I agree with your comments on funding ...Sharon...<br /> <br />I agree with your comments on funding and per pupil spending. There is no question high minority, low income schools receive more funding than their counterparts.<br /><br />As I said in an earlier comment, just between Project LIFT and Bright Beginnings, those 10,000 students over the next 5 years will have $160,000,000 MILLION dollars thrown at them. That doesn't count Title I, free this and free that plus other state, local and federal dollars.<br /><br />Notice since Project LIFT plans to spend money putting technology IN THE HOMES of many families of the 8 schools chosen, that CMS all of a sudden is changing its tune on allowing personal electronic devices at school?<br /><br />What others need to understand is that Project LIFT is sucking CMS into areas they don't need to be involved in.<br /><br /><b>~ Provide students and parents with access to a mobile medical clinic.<br />~ Explore opportunities to build community schools by providing in-house access to social services offices at Project L.I.F.T. schools and/or better coordinating existing services<br />~ Access additional resources needed to meet the immediate socio-emotional needs of students.</b><br /><br />They eventually want to replicate this district wide. Who will pay for it?<br />Here we are 40 years later with liberals crying about segregation. Busing failed miserably and people could not be forced to live where they did not want to live or forced to put their kids into schools government told them they had to attend.<br /><br />Liberals and the Observer never want to discuss why the County is almost 60% White but the schools are only a little over 32% White.<br /><br />Yet we have groups that keep hammering the same, lame 40 year old talking points about minorities versus their dwindling in number White counterparts and what they aren't getting.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-28068036955745356422012-02-03T07:39:51.740-05:002012-02-03T07:39:51.740-05:00Does it ever occur to members of the Observer edit...Does it ever occur to members of the Observer editorial board that they have helped create the anger in this community? In today's editorial they continue their song and dance of years past, by saying "Studies show U.S. public schools are now more racially segregated than they were in the 1960s. Many of those high-minority, high-poverty schools are under-resourced to meet student needs."<br /><br />It serves no purpose to throw this tidbit out here, unless they add a caveat that this is certainly not the case for funding and resources in Charlotte--which of course they did not do. Unfortunately, many of the old guard in Charlotte continue to believe that suburban schools are getting it all because that's what the storyline has been for so many years. <br /><br />Sharon StarksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-11361207887116137662012-02-03T00:31:53.465-05:002012-02-03T00:31:53.465-05:00http://media.charlotteobserver.com/
smedia/2012/0...http://media.charlotteobserver.com/<br /><br />smedia/2012/01/21/14/02/1hmybS.So.<br /><br />138.pdfWiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-5893818286499148502012-02-03T00:25:06.629-05:002012-02-03T00:25:06.629-05:00Project LIFT....
...a wolf in sheep's clothin...Project LIFT....<br /><br />...a wolf in sheep's clothing.<br /><br />If you think the goal of this "project" is to spend a few million of rich people's money, think again.<br /><br />You need to read up on this because the long-term desired intent is to make the entire system follow its policies and procedures.<br /><br />Who would have thought lobbyists would be needed to help "close the achievement gap"?<br /><br />http://media.charlotteobserver.com/smedia/2012/01/21/14/02/1hmybS.So.138.pdf<br /><br />The Observer has gone so far to compare this "project" to a similar one in Boston, yet the glowing data they (the Observer) quoted in my opinion is very misleading.<br /><br />We've already seen how well CMS handles data.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-77331205407620818202012-02-02T23:54:02.304-05:002012-02-02T23:54:02.304-05:00"shameful inequities" are in the eyes of..."shameful inequities" are in the eyes of the beholder. I'd wager a bet that 9 out of 10 dentists paying alimony and child support to an ex-wife think they got the short end of the stick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-89352056684297501682012-02-02T23:40:44.897-05:002012-02-02T23:40:44.897-05:00The only way to change entrenched school board pol...The only way to change entrenched school board policies is to change the way school board members are elected. This would require redrawing voting districts and actually having people who live in neighborhoods that are currently located in District 6 vote. Or, we can go back to having every school board member elected at-large which still isn't likely to produce the desired outcome of breaking CMS into smaller districts. Just my moo for the day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-80657384003690593772012-02-02T23:25:11.186-05:002012-02-02T23:25:11.186-05:00Pay attention kids. Our current school board is co...Pay attention kids. Our current school board is comprised of four African-Americans, two Reverends, six Democrats, two Republicans and one Independent. The day this entity agrees to abdicate power to appease some unhappy suburbanites pigs will most certainly fly. Again, that dog don't hunt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-29629442174261096472012-02-02T22:49:59.953-05:002012-02-02T22:49:59.953-05:007:18. Interesting points about Dallas. The problem...7:18. Interesting points about Dallas. The problem is Charlotte isn't Dallas. We live in a city where people still remember segregated lunch counters, segregated hospitals, segregated bathrooms, segregated transportation, segregated drinking fountains, a eugenics program that primarily targeted low income blacks, and a segregated school system. Did I mention the authentic KKK robe I viewed at the New Museum of the New South in Charlotte some years ago? Carving out a mostly white and upper middle class school district in Ballantyne will never fly in Charlotte. That dog don't hunt. As far as creating more maps, CMS has a plethora to chose from over many decades that didn't solve much. "decentralized" school zones which was Dr. Gorman's platform when he was hired was a bust.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-53097680791327342252012-02-02T22:40:53.917-05:002012-02-02T22:40:53.917-05:00It is funny how the world turns.At one time the be...It is funny how the world turns.At one time the best golfer in the world was black and the best rapper white. Think about how in the 60's the minority schools had very little money and books.The Brown vs. Board of Education (SC schools were combined into this) ruling began the end of this inequity.<br /><br />Now 50 years latter we have the minority in CMS,which is white students,receiving this same shameful inequity. All the money that has been spent show no measureable results. Damn the political correctness. Where is the return on investment?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-24555297095817834522012-02-02T22:30:57.658-05:002012-02-02T22:30:57.658-05:00TO ANON 3:38
Subject: Independent Audit for L.I....TO ANON 3:38<br /><br />Subject: Independent Audit for L.I.F.T<br /><br />I'm approaching some folks about not an audit but something meaningful in real-time.<br /><br />Just for the record, I'm on board for LIFT but haven't unpacked my bags. What's holding me back is that CMS is already using LIFT's planned management skills except for the intense Summer program. <br /><br />Also, I just don't get the need for a public/private area superintendent. Dotted-lines in management flow charts are a first sign of weakness.<br /><br /><br />Bolyn McClung<br />PinevilleBolynMcClunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02938579006144446381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-51524058414001471412012-02-02T22:18:11.606-05:002012-02-02T22:18:11.606-05:001. We don't have a teachers union in North Ca...1. We don't have a teachers union in North Carolina. The closest you could call it is an assoc. of educators. It has no real power other than to try and lobby and get a teacher extra insurance should one of the sweet darlings try to get you fired or some of the unsavory characters who hide in the system. I am not for a Union. <br />2. There is money being spent on prof. dev. and some of these new teaching methods. They might work, however nothing works better than actually having a parental presence promoting positive behavior and education in the home.<br />3. If you ask many of the students and families at some of these schools they feel the suburban schools are still given more money and opportunity. This is simply not true we spend roughly twice as much per pupil at low income schools.<br />4. But a real problem we have is ourselves. Anyone who tries to propose anything different that may or may not work automatically gets attacked by some group. Believe it or not we are not a terrible system, we tend to only let the bad get into the paper. And now that our school board has become another political entity in our community it will be worse.Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-76398660105107857582012-02-02T20:26:59.663-05:002012-02-02T20:26:59.663-05:00As long as we have the teacher union boss and her ...As long as we have the teacher union boss and her friends running the board of education, we're in trouble. Right now it's the fox guarding the henhouse. <br /><br />Dissolving CMS may be the only hope for improving the system for a long time to come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-59134380972866877112012-02-02T20:18:45.337-05:002012-02-02T20:18:45.337-05:00ATTENTION: Anonymous at 2:39. The only reason the...ATTENTION: Anonymous at 2:39. The only reason the schools the South Charlotte kids are assigned to are among the best in the state and county is because the PARENTS of the South Charlotte kids, (and they are of every race and ethnic group)are among the SMARTEST, MOST INDUSTRIOUS, MOST SELF SACRIFICING and MOST EDUCATED people in the state and they pass along those values to their children. It is certainly not because CMS provides them with equal resources or treats them fairly. The same applies to those of us in Davidson, Cornelius, and Huntersville and our schools. All of the credit belongs to the parents. NONE of the credit belongs to The Mess that is CMS, of which I would guess you are a part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com