tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post6085476677416213824..comments2023-10-23T09:23:22.051-04:00Comments on Your Schools: More join crowded school board raceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-19915853106046861872011-07-18T13:30:50.382-04:002011-07-18T13:30:50.382-04:00Anon 10:53...
A story on her running appears in t...Anon 10:53...<br /><br />A story on her running appears in the Observer and states she is a Democrat and supports the bullet points I posted above in another post, doing the same things we've been doing and throwing more good money after bad.<br /><br />The facts on what she supports have been presented.<br /><br />She certainly doesn't scare me at all. Her spend money at all cost for the same bad educational programs is out there for every voter to see.<br /><br />Surely you jest as to "what does being a Republican or a Democrat have to do with this"? When you support the NEA, you've already made it political.<br /><br />Since the demographic and political makeup of Charlotte and CMS is majority "minority", which overwhelming supports Democrat and union candidates, political party does come into play. It doesn't matter whether the BOE elections are supposed to be neutral or not.<br /><br />I'm a registered Independent and don't support either party.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-21491843173711022862011-07-18T11:41:09.765-04:002011-07-18T11:41:09.765-04:0011:47 The Public School system does not work and ...11:47 The Public School system does not work and we know it but for some reason like Miss Havisham we have people who think it is the only thing that needs to eat up the educational dollars. And to be honest, that is one thing it does very, very well.<br /><br />They do not seem to care that the worst prisoners are the very people who could grow the most from the changes. <br /><br />Folks all we have to do is to understand that times have changed and we have to change with them. <br /><br />What we have is a system that has overloaded itself with benefits and alliances that keep real teaching from happening but instead keep jobs and excellent futures for those in it. <br /><br />We now need smaller units focused on the needs of the community they serve and with volunteer boards not interested in an agenda other than a future in which the graduates compete with the rest of the world.<br /><br />Imagine how much stronger the public system would be in competition for a voucher with excellent charter schools? Imagine the child shopping the best school to achieve their future goals? <br /><br />The future is limitless. Oh wait not in the current setting. The programs is already set for everyone and it all one size.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07977808657926308272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-10687895459096203372011-07-18T10:53:53.291-04:002011-07-18T10:53:53.291-04:00The school board race is a nonpartisan election. S...The school board race is a nonpartisan election. Shouldn't we focus on who is committed to doing what is best for children, families and education in this county?<br /><br />When did this become about Republicans or Democrats? What is it about Mary McCray that scares you into not waiting to hear her say directly where she stands on the issues? Is it because she might have a chance?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-41623373292766107602011-07-18T00:38:12.507-04:002011-07-18T00:38:12.507-04:00You have so many assumptions that are incorrect.
...You have so many assumptions that are incorrect. <br /><br />It's best not to assume anything. Surely you know that.<br /><br />Never have I ever pushed vouchers so you're 100% wrong there.<br /><br />I am all for trying to FIX public education where the product is such that ALL parents in the County want to send their kids to the schools they pay taxes to support yet put them in private schools.<br /><br />So much for your "seeing through my crap". Again, you're 100% wrong.<br /><br />The fact is, Title One schools DO receive more funds, not only from the government but also corporations such as the $55 million given to 8 schools when there are just as many low income students who deserve the same funds in other schools. Again, you're wrong. So be careful damning those "philanthropists".<br /><br />I have never advocated spending the exact same amount of money per pupil so again, you're wrong.<br /><br />What I have advocated is spending money effectively on programs that WORK and for 40 years, public education has FAILED at it.<br /><br />CMS and other public systems use FRL numbers to justify more money and the FACT is, those FRL numbers are bogus. So again, your argument fails.<br /><br />Regarding integration or desegregation, however you want to define it, I lived it.. I was in the middle of back in the late 60's and early 70's so your history lesson falls on deaf ears here.<br /><br />And the last incorrect assumption you make is you believe I think you're Mary McCrary. It doesn't matter who you are as in my opinion, you're part of the same status quo that has led to the decline of public education.<br /><br />"You people" means the status quo. THAT is what it means, so put your race card back in the deck. <br /><br />I urge everyone to look at where the candidates stand and make your decisions based on facts.<br /><br />Mary McCray is another tax and spend Democrat who will NOT get my vote.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-28247621130162937642011-07-17T23:47:03.685-04:002011-07-17T23:47:03.685-04:00That is what it is all about isn't it. You wan...That is what it is all about isn't it. You want to kill public schools so that you can siphon the money to create private school like charters. It is easy to see through the crap you're espousing that it would be better for the minority kids. You have been using them to push for vouchers and charters so you can get them for your children. You create discord by saying they are getting more money per child than the suburban children when you know that money is eaten up by personnel costs and comes from federal programs for special needs children and Title I.<br /><br />The next outcry from you is let's divide the money equally, push them all into high poverty schools and take care of our own. You see we want a private school education for our children paid for by public school monies. Well, like everything else done in the dark, it all comes out. <br /><br />The education philanthropists and the charter school movement are tied together. Watch out for all who espouse these solutions. It is simply to destroy public education.<br /><br />Yes, busing for desegregation is dead in Charlotte, but not busing to take your child out of the neighborhood to a magnet to get away from your neighborhood school.<br />You are absolutely right that education and manners begin in the home but high expectations for a child's behavior and education must exist in all of the adults that child encounters. So those who have practiced the discriminatory practices of low expectations are also to blame for what is happening in CMS. State the rules, set high standards, provide support for those who are struggling, discipline those who are keeping others from learning. The kicker is in the execution of holding everyone accountable and making sure no one's child is exempt from the stated consequences. Is every one being rewarded or punished equally?<br /><br />By saying people of "your mindset" is almost like saying "you people". Is this the new doublespeak? You do not know me so how can you speak of my mindset? Are you assuming that I am Mary McCray? If so you are absolutely incorrect. <br /><br />A little historical context. Integration never occurred. Desegregation was mandated by law but integration occurs when the minds and hearts of people change. As for busing today, I believe the majority of African Americans could care less about their children spending hours on a bus to go sit next to a white child. What they do want is the best education for their child. So the solution is to strengthen their neighborhood schools with stable and mature faculties and principals. They have been the guinea pigs with TFA, TIF-Leap, Strategic Staffing, etc. How long have these programs been left in place to give them time to work?<br /><br />I could go on but I believe Mary McCray will look out for all of the children in Mecklenburg county and that's why she will get my vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-6451793990801981852011-07-17T22:46:39.604-04:002011-07-17T22:46:39.604-04:00....also...
Busing is dead. Forced integration i.......also...<br /><br />Busing is dead. Forced integration is dead.<br /><br />To continue to try and gerrymander schools to fit a social agenda will continue to drive people away from CMS.<br /><br />At some point, people of your mindset have to get a grip on reality and realize it doesn't matter where a child goes to school, they have to learn, have manners and respect and do the required work.<br /><br />One would think after 40 years, people of that mindset would get it.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-52922791781056186782011-07-17T22:33:03.425-04:002011-07-17T22:33:03.425-04:00If you want the same spend money at all cost for t...If you want the same spend money at all cost for the status quo, by all means support Mary MCcray.<br /><br />Here is what her organization stands for:<br /><br /><b>Education Issues for 2011 <br /><br />• To maintain the 1% sales tax that is set to expire in order to sustain teaching positions for class size stability.<br />• Raise the tax on beer and wine, canned/ bottled soft drinks and teas, as well as all energy drink sales by $.05. Also increase cigarette sales tax by $.25 to fund teaching assistants.<br />•Do not support vouchers (tuition tax credits) that allow public school funds to be used for private schools and home schooling.<br />• Do not allow charter school language to be changed to eliminate demographic and accountability requirements.<br />•Do not create Pay for Performance plans based on individual employee value-added scores.<br />• Fully fund Pre-K programs and North Carolina Public Schools.<br />•Do not support over-testing of students.<br />• Maintain the state insurance and retirement systems in their current form so that we can recruit well-qualified applicants to the school systems.<br />•Do not support the re-segregation of public schools and public school programs</b><br /><br />Also associated with the NEA....<br /><br />NEA President: <b>“America Cannot Have a Middle Class Without Unions”</b><br /><br /><br />Yeah, keep funding those black holes known as "pre-K".....Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-91271897079508327942011-07-17T17:53:18.155-04:002011-07-17T17:53:18.155-04:00What having Vilma Leake, George Dunlap, Molly Grif...What having Vilma Leake, George Dunlap, Molly Griffin, and other experienced board members got you was some one to keep an out of control superintendent in check. Pete didn't go off the deep end until he had his five votes who drank his koolaid without question. Those are the people he thoroughly hung out to dry, especially Eric Davis.<br />Remember folks, it has only been since the new district members were elected in 2008 that the Broad virus and its puppeteer obtained absolute power. Now you see where that has gotten us. We need a representative elected board, including someone who knows educational policy and practices from the schoolhouse door to the statehouse floor. Elect Mary McCray!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-43205669724102678012011-07-17T10:42:41.400-04:002011-07-17T10:42:41.400-04:00Old news BUT...this community elected Vilma Leake ...Old news BUT...this community elected Vilma Leake to the BOE who was a former President of CMAE the same as Mary McCray. We all know what that got us. Do you want a repeat? Tim Morgan is a puppet for the Chamber as well as others including Eric Davis. The Chamber is setting the agenda for the School District. Since when do they know what is the proper way to educate children? They know we need an educated work force so get out of the way and let those who know what they are doing get the job done! That includes the Executive Administration of CMS. Stop the micro-management!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-76933855220715510302011-07-16T15:20:53.458-04:002011-07-16T15:20:53.458-04:00For all of the tax credits, vouchers, etc, at the ...For all of the tax credits, vouchers, etc, at the end of the day, a child has to go to school, pay attention and learn something.<br /><br />The first President of the United States will be the same in every classroom and every school.<br /><br />There are 26 letters in the alphabet in every school.<br /><br />The condundrum Anon 5:40 is if public schools aren't working (I agree) and private schools, KIPP, etc do, then why is it that the Drs. of so and so Education and the politicians haven't figured that out for decades?<br /><br />One would think that if KIPP, charters, private schools work much better, then why not reconfigure the public schools to that system?<br /><br />The problem is, too many politicians and bleeding heart educrats can't bring themselves to make the radical changes necessary to save public schools.<br /><br />Those changes include accountability from parents, students, teachers educrat admins and also accountability within the system regarding funding.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-39518843453789291732011-07-16T14:23:32.301-04:002011-07-16T14:23:32.301-04:005:40
What you describe is sort of like the flat ta...5:40<br />What you describe is sort of like the flat tax...sounds great in theory, but it would put too many accountants and tax lawyers out of work...the inertia is toward keeping these folks employed. Just think about who loses if the current school model is blown up...won't happen in my lifetime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-46189809720140835342011-07-15T17:40:49.706-04:002011-07-15T17:40:49.706-04:00Mudd,
The solution to your conundrum is that socie...Mudd,<br />The solution to your conundrum is that society should set the amount we want to contribute towards education and then split that money equally in the form of tax credits per child. The parents receive the money and spend it as they see fit. The schools wouldn't receive money or control from the government at all. <br />The parents would decide where to send their children to school, and varying schools could specialize in various subjects, environments, structure, etc. The government needn't operate it's own system, just give parents the opportunity to pick the best school for their children. The "public school" model simply doesn't work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-55131682584403203922011-07-15T17:36:10.445-04:002011-07-15T17:36:10.445-04:00http://schoolmatters.knoxnews.com/forum/topics/mos...http://schoolmatters.knoxnews.com/forum/topics/most-recent-broadtrained<br /><br />The Broad Virus continues to raise its ugly head. Our troubles started with our board undergoing this training that taught them not to question the superintendent. After 2008, we had no one on the board with enough guts and knowledge to provide checks and balances to Gorman's smoke and mirrors leadership. Let's make sure we are not hoodwinked again by electing people who know something about educational policy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-10784721620296482982011-07-14T19:35:42.750-04:002011-07-14T19:35:42.750-04:00Hey 10:17.
We should look outside the USA for an ...Hey 10:17.<br /><br />We should look outside the USA for an education model because US students are competing on an international basis, and the US is not in the top tier in terms of educating kids. Home school and even private schools are for a select few and should remain autonomous. Just as public monies will corrupt religious institutions when they come to count on it, public money will also compromise the private in private schools! I do not see public subsidized private school as the answer to public school. It is understandable how private school board members and parents would appreciate running more on the public dole and less on their own private funding.Mudd E. Dictionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-48947698543023452212011-07-14T18:48:18.142-04:002011-07-14T18:48:18.142-04:00Just now looked at comments; thanks for the heads-...Just now looked at comments; thanks for the heads-up on what was happening on another post. I have pulled the questionable ones, and we'll have a discussion about what the boundaries should be.Ann Doss Helmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511764376105157616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-39493553209726397532011-07-14T17:51:57.576-04:002011-07-14T17:51:57.576-04:00http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/enactedlegislation/sta...http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/enactedlegislation/statutes/html/bychapter/chapter_132.html<br /><br />Chapter 132. <br />Public Records. <br /><br />§ 132‑1. "Public records" defined.<br /><br />(a) "Public record" or "public records" shall mean all documents, papers, letters, maps, books, photographs, films, sound recordings, magnetic or other tapes, electronic data‑processing records, artifacts, or other documentary material, regardless of physical form or characteristics, made or received pursuant to law or ordinance in connection with the transaction of public business by any agency of North Carolina government or its subdivisions. Agency of North Carolina government or its subdivisions shall mean and include every public office, public officer or official (State or local, elected or appointed), institution, board, commission, bureau, council, department, authority or other unit of government of the State or of any county, unit, special district or other political subdivision of government.<br /><br />(b) The public records and public information compiled by the agencies of North Carolina government or its subdivisions are the property of the people. Therefore, it is the policy of this State that the people may obtain copies of their public records and public information free or at minimal cost unless otherwise specifically provided by law. As used herein, "minimal cost" shall mean the actual cost of reproducing the public record or public information. (1935, c. 265, s. 1; 1975, c. 787, s. 1; 1995, c. 388, s. 1.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-87913841419836135572011-07-14T17:48:26.345-04:002011-07-14T17:48:26.345-04:00Anon 10:17 - Unfortunately, we would most likely e...Anon 10:17 - Unfortunately, we would most likely end up with more students in "Alternative Schools" than regular classrooms.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-5646258458924684232011-07-14T17:42:07.278-04:002011-07-14T17:42:07.278-04:00I would hope that the teacher reps would follow-up...I would hope that the teacher reps would follow-up on this article and check out THE ROOSTERS (Administrators,top and middle)FIRST then the HENS. As a teacher I would welcome any outside investigation that would "bust open" whatever 11:12am is afraid of finding through these blogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-70863191152924086162011-07-14T17:41:25.839-04:002011-07-14T17:41:25.839-04:00Anon 11:12 - It plainly states at the bottom of al...Anon 11:12 - It plainly states at the bottom of all CMS email messages:<br /><br />"Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to public records requests pursuant to the North Carolina Public Records Law, <br />resulting in monitoring and potential disclosure of this message to third parties."<br /><br />As we've seen with elected officals, and municipal employees, anything written in government emails is considered public information.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-28394549701578231662011-07-14T11:55:48.519-04:002011-07-14T11:55:48.519-04:00Several cases have been brought before the nationa...Several cases have been brought before the national courts against bloggers concerning issues of defamation or liability.<br /><br />U.S. payouts related to blogging totaled $17.4 million by 2009; in some cases these have been covered by umbrella insurance. The courts have returned with mixed verdicts. Internet Service Providers (ISPs), in general, are immune from liability for information that originates with third parties (U.S. Communications Decency Act and the EU Directive 2000/31/EC).<br /><br />In Doe v. Cahill, the Delaware Supreme Court held that stringent standards had to be met to unmask the anonymous posts of bloggers and also took the unusual step of dismissing the libel case itself (as unfounded under American libel law) rather than referring it back to the trial court for reconsideration.<br /><br />In a bizarre twist, the Cahills were able to obtain the identity of John Doe, who turned out to be the person they suspected: the town's mayor, Councilman Cahill's political rival. The Cahills amended their original complaint, and the mayor settled the case rather than going to trial.<br /><br /><i>Employees who blog about elements of their place of employment can begin to affect the brand recognition of their employer. In general, attempts by employee bloggers to protect themselves by maintaining anonymity have proved ineffective.<br /><br />Delta Air Lines fired flight attendant Ellen Simonetti because she posted photographs of herself in uniform on an airplane and because of comments posted on her blog "Queen of Sky: Diary of a Flight Attendant" which the employer deemed inappropriate. <br /><br />This case highlighted the issue of personal blogging and freedom of expression versus employer rights and responsibilities, and so it received wide media attention. Simonetti took legal action against the airline for "wrongful termination, defamation of character and lost future wages". <br /><br />The suit was postponed while Delta was in bankruptcy proceedings (court docket).</i>Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-77534746546203497502011-07-14T11:48:32.001-04:002011-07-14T11:48:32.001-04:00Today, news of probable cheating on state tests by...Today, news of probable cheating on state tests by teachers is emerging.<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/11/educators-tamper-students-tests_n_895179.html<br /><br />Quote:<br />"The rooster is guarding the hen house," said Gregory Cizek, a University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill professor involved in analysis of Atlanta's schools. "When you're asking the state Department of Education to follow up on the state education system's potential problems, you're asking the wrong people to follow up on that. It should be some external or independent arm that does the follow up or the analyses."<br /><br />Wonder how some of these ticked-off teachers reps jumping in the school board race would handle a teacher investigation at CMS?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-51861865489124930202011-07-14T11:12:11.429-04:002011-07-14T11:12:11.429-04:0010:11--Okay, let's ask Ann and Eric for some c...10:11--Okay, let's ask Ann and Eric for some clarification about what is allowable on this blog (after all it is their, and the Observer's, blog). If you or I start a blog we can certainly set up standards for what can be posted. Does the Observer do the same? I would like to know if The Observer believes it is appropriate for someone to make accusations against school personnel, actually naming names, on this blog. In addition, is it appropriate for a commenter to post an in-house email (different than Ann or Eric obtaining emails through channels.)? Are there a set of standards or rules which govern this blog? If not and anything goes, then so be it. Open the floodgates!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-51537072941665536312011-07-14T10:17:38.346-04:002011-07-14T10:17:38.346-04:00Mudd - why are we looking OUTSIDE the USA. There a...Mudd - why are we looking OUTSIDE the USA. There are great schools right here. If we use the "private school" model we would have a great base. Yeah, yeah I know that public schools take ALL the kids. But maybe we need to rethink that. Take ALL the kids UNTIL they show they can't handle it. THEN send those kids to be home schooled or send them to Alternative programs. In that way those who WISH to LEARN can stay in school and will learn. That used to be the way it was when we were ON TOP!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-3281690882974376062011-07-14T10:11:32.467-04:002011-07-14T10:11:32.467-04:008:46AM, This is STILL AMERICA and freedom of speec...8:46AM, This is STILL AMERICA and freedom of speech is still alive and well. This is a blog. Open discussions. There is no foul language. The posters here are responsible. They do not use foul language or disparaging remarks. This is an OPEN FORUM for information sharing. If the truth hurts read the news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-65353780263774848452011-07-14T08:46:48.562-04:002011-07-14T08:46:48.562-04:00Ann and Eric,
In case you are not following posts ...Ann and Eric,<br />In case you are not following posts to the previous topic (cheating in Atlanta) you really should take a look at them immediately. Internal CMS memos, accusations against named faculty members, etc.--way out of line. I can't believe you and The Observer are allowing this to go on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com