tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post6557576814028027141..comments2023-10-23T09:23:22.051-04:00Comments on Your Schools: CMS names 350 to task forcesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-8908671194155574542013-01-23T15:21:32.980-05:002013-01-23T15:21:32.980-05:00Hi Pamela,
Alicia
"Well from now on, Linus, ...Hi Pamela,<br />Alicia<br /><br />"Well from now on, Linus, think for yourself.. Don't take Any advice from anyone!"<br /><br />- Charlie Brown<br /><br />"If everybody agreed with ME, they all be right!"<br /><br />- LucyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-5241064814236102612013-01-23T11:48:12.698-05:002013-01-23T11:48:12.698-05:00To Pamela at 4:00 PM:
What are we going to do ab...To Pamela at 4:00 PM: <br />What are we going to do about those white tax paying parents who think they should have a say in how CMS is run!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-70206777121724108822013-01-22T19:47:59.913-05:002013-01-22T19:47:59.913-05:00Alicia, I love your "moral high-horse" c...Alicia, I love your "moral high-horse" comment. There certainly has been a lot of that over the years, including a leading banker who told the court we needed to continue busing because diversity was so important (but of course his grandkids were in private schools), a newspaper editor who oversaw the bashing of suburbanites who wanted busing to end but, oh by the way, her child attend Country Day, the Mayor who says he's going to use housing to do something about the schools, but, oh year, his kids go to CD as well, and on and on and on. (There's nothing wrong with sending your child to private school but just don't tell the rest of us what bad people we are for wanting our kids at schools close to home). Then we have the public school parents, East Meck comes to mind, who are happy to snatch the "right" kids away from their assigned schools to help balance out their school. Has happened time after time after time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-41109564563467217002013-01-22T19:39:26.913-05:002013-01-22T19:39:26.913-05:00If Year Round Schools are such a great idea, then ...If Year Round Schools are such a great idea, then why not every school ?<br /><br />UmmmmmmmmmmmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-89895094857258832062013-01-22T19:30:54.122-05:002013-01-22T19:30:54.122-05:00Alicia, you have to have been here when these &quo...Alicia, you have to have been here when these "home school" zones were created. The BOE at that time was most racist, less concerned with government spending, grabbing for all the revenge they could get after losing the trial (building Waddell HS), and on and on. If you go to any other semi-successful city, you would not see a pupil assignment zone drawn anything like these were.Missourinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-24792263993330511502013-01-22T19:25:58.781-05:002013-01-22T19:25:58.781-05:00Pam, I'd considered doing just that myself. B...Pam, I'd considered doing just that myself. But then I had a reality check and decided this "circus" was not worth my time. This is just a show for Heath, Broad and several others to make a national name for themselves wringing their hands in front of politicians to try to get more money for these "underprivileged". Missourinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-39803135516790052372013-01-22T18:43:31.805-05:002013-01-22T18:43:31.805-05:00There are areas of town The Middle Ring didn't...There are areas of town The Middle Ring didn't want that were reassigned (with absolutely no objection) to schools that are now considered "abandoned". I welcome anyone to look at the Myers Park H.S. "home" zone map before speaking out on the topic of who's racist and who isn't. <br /><br />AliciaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-24107894972944222322013-01-22T18:25:12.250-05:002013-01-22T18:25:12.250-05:00Ah, which brings us to "The Middle Ring"...Ah, which brings us to "The Middle Ring"...<br /><br />The Middle Ring (a coalition of mostly white and very well-connected parents representing East Meck, South Meck and Myers Park), fought to keep and reassign middle-class neighborhoods to their schools while booting out public housing projects with no objections once court ordered busing was lifted. The moral high-horse this group took managed to alienate a lot of families with options. I sat through a speech (the "Me, My" speech) by a local white judge who basically said anyone who didn't support forced busing was a racist. <br /><br />And here we are.<br /><br />At least three people associated with The Middle Ring are leading CMS' latest task-forces. <br /><br />AliciaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-87249558016852121172013-01-22T17:51:44.627-05:002013-01-22T17:51:44.627-05:00Are there any majority white schools in NC with po...Are there any majority white schools in NC with poverty rates pushing 90%? <br /><br />My children attended a CMS school with a 54% poverty rate. I'll be brutally honest, we didn't stay here once the school became overcrowded. The school was between here and no-man's land. It wasn't poverty stricken enough to receive additional state or federal funding but there was enough poverty to have middle-class families flee the minute the school became overcrowded. CMS eventually tinkered with boundary lines reassigning some public housing projects to other schools in an effort to encourage middle-class families to return. <br /><br />What is the "tipping-point" or threshold of poverty before middle-class families start to flee? I think it's about 54% but I'm not certain. <br /><br />AliciaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-69844268952497313922013-01-22T17:36:58.613-05:002013-01-22T17:36:58.613-05:00Do we "differentiate" issues of poverty?...Do we "differentiate" issues of poverty?<br /><br />In other words, do we address black poverty and white poverty, rural poverty and urban poverty, differently?<br /><br />AliciaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-48414736282007516072013-01-22T17:34:19.076-05:002013-01-22T17:34:19.076-05:00Ann,
"Abandoned" schools. That's a...Ann,<br /><br />"Abandoned" schools. That's an interesting and perhaps more accurate way of looking at things. Middle-class blacks aren't sending their children to schools with a 90% poverty rate anymore than middle-class whites, middle-class Asians, middle-class Latinos or middle-class anyone else. I attended a high poverty white rural school for three years but I doubt the FRL numbers reached 90%. As far as I'm concerned, poverty is poverty. Poverty isn't a contest between races or ethnicities. However, I what I don't know is if there are more or less effective ways to address poverty based on race, culture and geographic location. When we talk about poverty in Charlotte, we generally mean urban black poverty - rarely is poverty discussed in a more comprehensive way.<br /><br />AliciaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-3868383425402224762013-01-22T17:25:48.616-05:002013-01-22T17:25:48.616-05:003:03 here. Don't quite understand what you mea...3:03 here. Don't quite understand what you mean, Ann. Hear what? ("Don't know who you hear that from") If you are referring to the resegregation comment Bolyn mentioned it in his post. The same comment is thrown around all the time by local activists. ("I don't know who would take the other side of that argument")What does that mean? I agree that there are plenty of new issues and new challenges, but to lump those challenges under "resegregation" and claim things are back to the way they were in the 50's is ridiculous. Were high poverty schools getting the lion's share of the money back in the 50's? Was anyone worrying about their graduation rates?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-66628013248447358972013-01-22T16:49:04.084-05:002013-01-22T16:49:04.084-05:003:03, I wonder who you hear that from. You're ...3:03, I wonder who you hear that from. You're right that all-white schools and exclusion based on race is gone, but I don't know who would take the other side of that argument. When people talk about resegregation, they're generally talking about the schools that have been abandoned by white and/or middle-class families, where poverty levels may top 90 percent (and CMS has plenty). New issues, new challenges.Ann Doss Helmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511764376105157616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-76790856803019373872013-01-22T16:38:36.812-05:002013-01-22T16:38:36.812-05:00No, Missouri, I'd like to see you prove me wro...No, Missouri, I'd like to see you prove me wrong. I'll buy you lunch anywhere in town you choose if you can do it. Pamela Grundynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-44483338044767744032013-01-22T16:25:49.727-05:002013-01-22T16:25:49.727-05:00Pam, I might take you up on that bet.
Show me!Pam, I might take you up on that bet. <br /><br />Show me!Missourinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-57330793697948324782013-01-22T16:25:24.611-05:002013-01-22T16:25:24.611-05:00Pam , I seriously doubt your analysis is true. Thi...Pam , I seriously doubt your analysis is true. This 350 is grouped with insiders and minority activists that marched a few years ago and shut down CMS. Of course CMS shut their schools and drove many white families away. We will let the state have a their feeding frenzy with this group as well. Meetings are open so now Heath knows the law. These task force's are nothing , but smoke your smarter than that. (I think) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-24828728607504673422013-01-22T16:00:39.394-05:002013-01-22T16:00:39.394-05:0010:52
I'd be willing to bet that if anyone to...10:52<br /><br />I'd be willing to bet that if anyone took the trouble to profile all 350 task force members, white taxpaying parents would be the largest group. How many of those represent your particular political position is an entirely different question.Pamela Grundynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-71436176965271696512013-01-22T15:26:41.330-05:002013-01-22T15:26:41.330-05:00Cultural Competency
Critical Race Theory
I don...Cultural Competency<br />Critical Race Theory<br /><br />I don't know if my college business major son is studying Persian carpets and Persian hookah lounges along with Persian tile making (as a required "expressive" course needed to graduate), but if CMS could put a stop to all the cultural understanding, courageous conversation and diversity sensitivity madness, I think there are plenty of law abiding citizens in who would be happy to light-up and share a round-table peace pipe. All for one, one for... I give up.<br /><br />AliciaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-40626146070166477412013-01-22T15:03:27.940-05:002013-01-22T15:03:27.940-05:00I am tired of hearing the claim that we have "...I am tired of hearing the claim that we have "re-segregated" to where we were in the middle 1950's. Nowhere in Charlotte do school populations look the same today as they did in the mid-1900s. Just take a look at the names of teens participating in Youth Voice Leadership Alliance listed in Young Achievers on page 50 of today's paper. In addition, no one is denied entry to any school today because of their race--big difference from the 50's. The only ones who are stuck in the mid 1900's are those "race theorists" who can only see things in black and white.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-40639972612280645412013-01-22T14:55:02.073-05:002013-01-22T14:55:02.073-05:00The operative word.is LEAD. Did CMS ask teachers t...The operative word.is LEAD. Did CMS ask teachers to volunteer to lead? You mean to tell me not ONE teacher in CMS offered to lead? I find this preposterous but perhaps I'm wrong.<br /><br />Alicia Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-62798364311621307292013-01-22T14:49:51.365-05:002013-01-22T14:49:51.365-05:00Fair question.
Did CMS invite teachers to lead a ...Fair question.<br /><br />Did CMS invite teachers to lead a task-force? And if CMS did, they all declined? <br /><br />Alicia Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-18673942953697814112013-01-22T14:28:01.496-05:002013-01-22T14:28:01.496-05:00Anon 8:35 Jan 21 and Alicia...
Yep. Critical Rac...Anon 8:35 Jan 21 and Alicia...<br /><br />Yep. Critical Race Theory.<br /><br />It's the root.<br /><br />Every white person needs to get familiar with it and what it says.<br /><br />Because it is being used against you in so many ways.<br /><br />The leftist politicians and others of their ilk are just lapping that stuff up.<br /><br />There is no real (i.e., "white man") science behind it, either, just anecdotes and stories. <br /><br />Exactly the method "Courageous Conversations" uses.<br /><br />And why there is no scientific evidence behind the value of "Cultural Competency".<br /><br />Science is white man stuff, you see, and is only used to continue to oppress the non-whites.<br /><br />Got it?<br /><br />So the "antidote" to whiteness was designed to be as slippery and subversive as possible.<br /><br />They don't need no stinkin' science.<br /><br />Welcome to our future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-78565388758196004602013-01-22T14:05:15.047-05:002013-01-22T14:05:15.047-05:00Read the Moynihan Report.
Blacks were growing the...Read the Moynihan Report.<br /><br />Blacks were growing the ranks of the middle class from Brown (1954) to 1964.<br /><br />After the great civil rights plans implemented by Democrats and Republicans in 1964, the Black family was shot to hell where it is today. Fatherless Black children and over 70% of Black women are single with children.<br /><br />Resegregation of schools is the natural order of things, where the school system has continually failed and parents of all races have chosen other options because of that failure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-51956739821583977532013-01-22T11:37:29.460-05:002013-01-22T11:37:29.460-05:00Everyone on the roster with a T after the name is ...Everyone on the roster with a T after the name is a teacher. There seem to be at least a couple on each task force.Ann Doss Helmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511764376105157616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-6032429489309383612013-01-22T11:37:11.798-05:002013-01-22T11:37:11.798-05:004:39
Did you read the lists? There are teachers on...4:39<br />Did you read the lists? There are teachers on every task force.<br /><br />10:56<br />Do you want teachers to take time out of their jobs to do the admin work it will take to lead a task force? You'd complain about that too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com