tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post7944183749258871579..comments2023-10-23T09:23:22.051-04:00Comments on Your Schools: Burger King vs. teaching: One man's choiceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-62284130677533591212014-04-29T01:08:03.611-04:002014-04-29T01:08:03.611-04:00A bit late, but those whom chose to head in the au...A bit late, but those whom chose to head in the authoritative/principal direction are required to go BACk to school to be reeducated on proper leadership and ethics. Don't think that "80-100k" comes free, as it does not! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-81210992906102000282013-08-21T16:53:36.601-04:002013-08-21T16:53:36.601-04:00Let's talk about that "Burger King" ...Let's talk about that "Burger King" Manager position, really...Actually, I'll start with the Bojangles position I saw advertised in Monroe...starting salary $45K. STARTING salary $45K. More than law enforcement, more than teachers, only a high school diploma required. Now, let's talk about this...avg salary of a restaurant manager in Charlotte - $84K. $84,000. Now, I realize that includes Morton's, etc., but it also includes Burger King. It is clear that the priorities of this State are out-of-wack. Oh, and btw, the manager's position at Bojangles comes with benefits.highlandangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358738281340617906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-27944935434904268422013-08-14T10:58:12.491-04:002013-08-14T10:58:12.491-04:00The 10 month argument really gets old and makes me...The 10 month argument really gets old and makes me think people are not willing to educate themselves. First off, that figure that's quoted for his salary seems high in NC for a teacher that has only been working for 6 years. Looking at the chart that I am assuming you got the number from, I see that you are pulling from teachers pay that have a Bachelor's, their NBPTS Certification and a Master's. It doesn't say that he has a master's and not that it matters, because in the future, according the new legislation, extra pay won't be awarded for a Master's degree. In addition, I find it laughable that you trust a chart that lists teacher's pay by year as if teachers in NC has gotten annual increases. I think after they got cut a bit several years ago, they did get a 1% raise last year, but have been mostly frozen for last 5 years, so that would make his pay (without a Master's) somewhere between $30,000 - $34,000 with no hope for a raise in the near future. Because again, NC teacher's salaries have been flat for 5 years. And even if they get a 1% raise again, it still won't cover the fact that they are now paying a premium for their health insurance. <br /><br />Just for kicks, we'll use the high number, (although my bet is it's the smaller number) $34,000, which might be more than BK Manager. But if it is - barely. And last time I checked, BK Mangers don't need a college degree - let alone a Master's or the acumen to provide our future leaders knowledge with. <br /><br />As for the 10 months and 'great' benefits. Yes, teachers get two months off in the summer. But the rest of the year, they are tied to that classroom. A good teacher will not take a day off of work the entire time, unless they are so sick they would be damaging their students. That family wedding they have to go to across the country? Sorry, I can't leave until 3 pm on Friday. The repair man wants to fix the fridge? Can you do at 4? Doctor's appts? Same thing. In addition, more and more responsibilies are tacked onto their job, that include before work, after work, on weekends, nights, etc. There is no flexibility. Plus where is grading/planning factored in? Phone calls to parents, emails? Have you met today's parents??? If you are teaching all day, then when do you do the rest of your job? Oh right, planning periods? Wait, those are now filled with additional duties. So teachers work many MORE hours than 40 a week during a regular school year. And more than compensates for the fact that they have 2 months off. Especially considering they make SO LITTLE MONEY. <br /><br />And benefits? Again, laughable. Any college degree holding individual who goes into Corporate America, has benefits far greater than the teachers. Their insurance is terrible. CoPays are so high, they'd rather not go to the doctor. Sure, they have a pension - that MIGHT be paid when they retire. But at the rate they are cutting things from teachers, each are afraid of what might happen if their pension goes next. <br /><br />I know as a advance degree holder working for a company... I am thankful NOT to be treated like a teacher. And if my company did - I'd just leave and go to another company. Thank goodness that's not the attitude of a teacher. Where would our students be if that was the case?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-54604236871129323932013-08-14T09:17:31.873-04:002013-08-14T09:17:31.873-04:00Teachers are NOT the only profession feeling the s...Teachers are NOT the only profession feeling the sting of this economy. My husband and I are both professionals that have seen our pay and our benefits decrease for the past 5 years. <br /><br />Our pay has decreased, our time-off has decreased, forget any kind of bonus, over-time, etc. We are expected to be able to do everything and anything that needs to be accomplished in our jobs, whether or not we were formally trained for it or not. Whatever it takes. We are ALWAYS working in the evenings and on the weekends, answering emails, doing research, talking with reps, completing evaluations, etc. This is what we must to in order to keep our jobs. And we do this without having any summer 'vacation' or holidays. We are lucky if we get Christmas Day and Thanksgiving Day off. If we totaled the number of hours that we actually spend working our hourly rate would probably not be much higher than minimum wage. <br /><br />We don't have anyone to complain to. We are expected to maintain continuing education and certification (all at our own expense) and are constantly having our productivity and quality measured. If we do not meet certain standards, we will be in the unemployment line. Period. This is the unfortunate state of the real working world at this point in time. <br /><br />I do believe teachers should be paid a higher salary. However, I also believe there are many, many more professionals that deserve to be paid more as well. These professionals are just as vital and important as teachers. <br /><br />Our government at all levels is so overly bloated and growing at an alarming rate. All at the same time the money pot (aka taxpayers) is shrinking. The bubble is going to burst very soon and it is not going to be pretty. <br /><br />I'm sorry for the pay that teachers are receiving, but I'm also sorry for the pay that so many other Americans are receiving as well. We are all in a heap of trouble is something drastic does not change very soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-78754672171335365212013-08-13T09:22:27.650-04:002013-08-13T09:22:27.650-04:00Of course someone who is NOT in education or marri...Of course someone who is NOT in education or married to someone that is an educator would HAVE to mention that we only work 10 months. Think again! Educators have trainings and other expectations that need to be met on Saturdays, Sundays, and yes even the two months that we "have off." You need to spend some time in a classroom!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-80491697190854991422013-08-12T23:55:24.052-04:002013-08-12T23:55:24.052-04:00I'm sorry, but unless you are a university pro...I'm sorry, but unless you are a university professor or such, you do not need a Masters Degree. <br /><br />And guess what. I work in the private sector and haven't received a raise in the past 5 years because of the economy, But when the freeze is lifted for my company, I'll be getting a raise based on my performance. And tenure? Well, that's just ridiculous. <br /><br />Want to make more money? Go be a manager at Burger King. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-32566202142395655522013-08-12T09:15:45.152-04:002013-08-12T09:15:45.152-04:00Mr. Ashley should have asked one of the Language A...Mr. Ashley should have asked one of the Language Arts "teacher of the years" to proofread his letter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-31942469036112597742013-08-12T08:04:08.799-04:002013-08-12T08:04:08.799-04:00Not every teacher is great. Removing tenure is a ...Not every teacher is great. Removing tenure is a first step to providing flexibility to pay great teachers more. Making it easier and less expensive to remove under-performing teachers would be a second step. Both steps would free up money to attract and reward high-performing teachers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-22259835667635176992013-08-11T23:28:43.757-04:002013-08-11T23:28:43.757-04:0010:06 PM
I made $31,000 a year right out of colleg...10:06 PM<br />I made $31,000 a year right out of college in 1987 as a dance major. Yes, a dance major. So, perhaps there is something to be said for choosing a liberal arts major that typically doesn't serve the private sector but the non-profit and educational sectors instead while our public schools are enamored with everything related to STEM in an effort to maintain a healthy economy while remaining globally competitive. <br /><br />1:13 PM<br />Trust me, I respect the Burger King manager as much as I do the P.E. teacher and the dance teacher because God doesn't place a higher or lesser value on people based on earthy job titles. <br /><br />Alicia<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-68303858902553477052013-08-11T21:44:31.526-04:002013-08-11T21:44:31.526-04:00My son in law is a N.C. teacher working on his mas...My son in law is a N.C. teacher working on his master degree and will reap no benefit for it. I am encouraging him and my daughter to relocate to another state where teachers are more appreciated and respected. NC has failed its children and teachers.Pattynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-89888361321091254772013-08-11T13:40:01.380-04:002013-08-11T13:40:01.380-04:00I would think that someone with a teaching degree ...I would think that someone with a teaching degree would know that the plural of "teacher of the year" is "teachers of the year." This is a great piece, but that error detracts from it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-55283364384812601742013-08-11T13:13:27.291-04:002013-08-11T13:13:27.291-04:00I'm all for paying good teachers more. Much mo...I'm all for paying good teachers more. Much more.<br /><br />But it's wrong to take a cheap shot at "Burger King managers."<br />Those guys/ladies often work as hard or harder than teachers, and their work is just as important.<br /><br />Most restaurant managers have daily teaching experiences with young, often unmotivated staffers, not unlike a school classroom. That teaching is often as important and relevant as the teacher's Social Studies lessons. Most of us learn far, far more outside the classroom than inside.<br /><br />And no, restaurant managers don't make much more than this teacher, who before long will be earning $50K and a defined benefit pension, and then $80-100K when he becomes an administrator. Plus several weeks each summer to decompress.<br /><br />Mr. Teacher, please learn that Mr. Burger King's work is just as valuable and important as your daily toil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-67503687128847222432013-08-11T10:06:44.944-04:002013-08-11T10:06:44.944-04:00@Andrew T. - you are absolutely right! The peopl...@Andrew T. - you are absolutely right! The people blasting you have no idea what it's like in the private sector. Entitlement mentality run off the rails. I'm sick of it. What I would have done for $30K right out of college!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-63196268828703808632013-08-11T09:26:24.630-04:002013-08-11T09:26:24.630-04:00This was a great letter, however I know most likel...This was a great letter, however I know most likely members of the legislator did not read it or if they did it was thrown into a pile of others just like it. They will do what they wish because unlike teachers the have no "accountability" system in place to govern them. This will mostly likely be my last year of teaching unless I move out of NC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-68713692563936352632013-08-10T23:58:03.616-04:002013-08-10T23:58:03.616-04:00I recently chose to resign from teaching in NC. I ...I recently chose to resign from teaching in NC. I had no clue that these state decisions were headed this way! Whether by grand guidance or simply a good idea, I plan to open my own rural tutoring business. My original plan had been to join the virtual world for middle schoolers who did not quite fit the public classroom mold - but virtual public school in NC is not yet available! Yet nearly every other state has joined that bandwagon. WHY? Because teachers have, and will always get the raw end of the deal. No matter how good they teach, or how much their students scores improve - ultimately, there are too many issues in public schools that take away from real learning, and from teachers being able to stay in the classroom and accomplish what they were trained to. With all that said - the future is that MANY parents will enroll their children in virtual schools, many will need help. I will be there for them. I will miss the benefits, but it appears Obamacare will eventually take care of that as well. I hope other teachers see the light before the tunnel encases their love of teaching. I am glad I got out.DJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10356173958234773984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-21441475936604545552013-08-10T23:57:42.966-04:002013-08-10T23:57:42.966-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.DJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10356173958234773984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-57905211715571242712013-08-10T00:03:52.979-04:002013-08-10T00:03:52.979-04:00California is horrible, too. If you are lucky enou...California is horrible, too. If you are lucky enough to snag a job, don't depend on it being there the next school year.miffykurarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12300744392738503184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-7014490057286567852013-08-09T22:59:59.622-04:002013-08-09T22:59:59.622-04:00...someone else's fault....someone else's fault.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-39284617183272815032013-08-09T22:58:34.704-04:002013-08-09T22:58:34.704-04:00Diane, remember this attack on teachers started as...Diane, remember this attack on teachers started as politians, the media, philanthropers, and race profiteers using each other when the urban culture failed its young people and started looking for smeone to blame for their plight. Because it is always someone's fault. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-14205913107501010472013-08-09T22:52:03.683-04:002013-08-09T22:52:03.683-04:00This is not unique to North Carolina. I live in W...This is not unique to North Carolina. I live in Wisconsin, where our Governor, immediately upon entering office, began his war on collective bargaining and teachers throughout the state. As the wife of a teacher who taught and coached in the Milwaukee Public School system for 33 years, I can tell first hand what an impact teachers make on the lives of their students. My husband has been retired from teaching for 13 years, and still former students (from as long ago as 1970) seek him out, ask his advice, invite him to their life events, get tattoos (!) in his honor. The value of a good teacher is priceless. And yet, as a nation, we CONTINUE to undervalue the very people who educate our children....at our peril!Diane Irishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-7959097595171379032013-08-09T17:26:58.578-04:002013-08-09T17:26:58.578-04:005:06
Has it ever occurred to you that a team coach...5:06<br />Has it ever occurred to you that a team coach who may have worked for a school system for 25 plus years or so may have actually changed and impacted hundreds of lives in ways that you can't even begin to imagine? <br /><br />Because I can. Because I had coaches, band teachers and other teachers in my life who did. I had teachers who impacted my life in profound ways that you have no right to comment on in terms of their value and worth. <br /><br />AliciaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-26578667789609286562013-08-09T17:14:17.187-04:002013-08-09T17:14:17.187-04:003:54
No, there are no overpaid teachers in CMS.
...3:54<br />No, there are no overpaid teachers in CMS. <br /><br />Yes - like all public schools - there are a few teachers who shouldn't be paid at all but they are the exception to the rule and should be dealt with accordingly which doesn't include giving them 50% of their salary for failing to do their job (see; CMS' zero grade policy discussion). Good teachers don't like working with lazy and incompetent teachers which scientific research supports.<br /><br />And I'm really not interested in getting into a debate over the value and worth between a kindergarten teacher, a music teacher, a foreign language teacher, a math teacher, or a social studies teacher. They all matter.<br /><br />AliciaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-65170658320832342672013-08-09T17:06:09.460-04:002013-08-09T17:06:09.460-04:00Are the $70,000.+ per 10 months elementary phys ed...Are the $70,000.+ per 10 months elementary phys ed teachers working like that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-10317627415498851122013-08-09T16:52:01.424-04:002013-08-09T16:52:01.424-04:00To the guy making the comment that Ashley has a sa...To the guy making the comment that Ashley has a salary of $39,000+ and only works 8 or 9 months a year: Well, anyone living with a teacher can tell you that not only do we work on our own most of the summer, we work EVERY weekend and usually some on any other vacation including winter break. Teachers put in more hours working than most professions. Live with a teacher and see!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-80723611109466057572013-08-09T15:54:46.013-04:002013-08-09T15:54:46.013-04:00Are there no overpaid teachers at CMS?Are there no overpaid teachers at CMS?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com