tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post8223263129196590699..comments2023-10-23T09:23:22.051-04:00Comments on Your Schools: Who's to blame for CMS data delay?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-72777712032836638432014-03-06T09:34:26.662-05:002014-03-06T09:34:26.662-05:00If a Charter school were this incompetent, ADH wou...If a Charter school were this incompetent, ADH would have already published a 6,000 word front page series about it.Garth Vaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03575150785051894691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-33591206805009890182014-03-05T07:20:46.379-05:002014-03-05T07:20:46.379-05:00Actually the FRL program is there to TEACH childre...Actually the FRL program is there to TEACH children how to steal from the government by at least learning SOMETHING from their parents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-71426698677871036712014-03-04T22:03:54.138-05:002014-03-04T22:03:54.138-05:00Q: How is a student’s benefit level determined?
...<b>Q: How is a student’s benefit level determined?</b><br /><br /><i>The Child Nutrition Office reviews applications and eligibility determination is based on USDA guidelines. Students may also be granted free meal benefits through the process of Direct Certification. Direct Certification is a process which allows CMS to obtain documentation from the Mecklenburg County Department of Social Services (DSS) to determine the children who are members of a household currently certified to receive food stamps or TANF benefits and are therefore eligible for free meal benefits.</i><br /><br />Attempts by Gjertsen and Gauvreau to get CMS to do a full audit as to who qualifies for school lunches and who doesn't was met with a threat from the USDA, that CMS' $34 MILLION in USDA funds would be yanked if they proceeded.<br /><br /><i>The National School Lunch Act does not specifically address the legality of a school district going beyond the 3,000 or 3 percent benchmark. The USDA, however, interprets the law to disallow a comprehensive verification. The 2008 version of the “Eligibility Manual for School Meals,” published by the USDA, says that school districts “must not verify more than or less than the standard sample size … and must not verify all (100% of) applications” (emphasis in original).</i><br /><br />But according to at least one person there is no school lunch fraud:<br /><br /><b>“Poor people don’t know how to steal from the federal government. They’re not smart enough,”</b> said school board member Vilma Leake.<br /><br />According to the USDA, they overpay benefits by $1.6 BILLION per year.<br /><br />I guess Leake didn't get that talking points memo.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-8808135649708633322014-03-04T17:07:46.082-05:002014-03-04T17:07:46.082-05:004:36, there has been talk about outsourcing food s...4:36, there has been talk about outsourcing food service for years but it hasn't happened. I am sure cafeteria staff are CMS employees. I am not 100 percent sure that they don't outsource FRL verification, though I've never heard that. Anyone know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-11605923746749640342014-03-04T16:36:56.044-05:002014-03-04T16:36:56.044-05:00FRL, kids parents fill out a form and give it to t...FRL, kids parents fill out a form and give it to the lunch room manager. I think the managers work for a private company. How much control does CMS have over the process?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-29359122195602160672014-03-04T13:40:47.385-05:002014-03-04T13:40:47.385-05:001:05
Most teachers would agree.1:05<br />Most teachers would agree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-45598670451452250272014-03-04T13:05:00.047-05:002014-03-04T13:05:00.047-05:00amyo,
Just more evidence that CMS is just too lar...amyo,<br /><br />Just more evidence that CMS is just too large and unwieldy for its own good.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-34646645135986333882014-03-04T12:34:08.592-05:002014-03-04T12:34:08.592-05:00A reminder...
FRL determines hundreds of billions...A reminder...<br /><br />FRL determines hundreds of billions of dollars in funding each year. It is imperative that we have data, regardless if the data is bogus.<br />It's hypocritical of CMS to claim they want Power School data to be accurate, when much of their data is false to begin with.<br /><br />Wiley CoyoteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-9246839696409584002014-03-04T12:06:21.709-05:002014-03-04T12:06:21.709-05:00Power school is a Raleigh issue. Top down NC at it...Power school is a Raleigh issue. Top down NC at it's finest. Don't get me wrong, CMS is top down to. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-48476535098568257782014-03-04T11:13:10.290-05:002014-03-04T11:13:10.290-05:00I don't want to apologize for the CMS data fol...I don't want to apologize for the CMS data folks, and I do agree that it's taking an awfully long time to get the data out, but in a district as big as CMS, there really are issues with cleaning the data properly (e.g., removing duplicates for kids who enrolled at more than one school or were counted more than once at some point, resolving monthly averages with the 10-day count,handling changes in an individual student's ethnic or FRL data, etc.) You'd think it would be easy, but it's not. I once worked for a large school system in this capacity, and giving out even "simple" counts can be challenging because the data fluctuates day to day. Understandably, the CMS data folks don't want egg on their faces all over again, so they figure they'd better be late than wrong. And the PowerSchool issue really is problematic. I had to go to my kids' school last week because one of the kids had been tagged as absent on a day when he was present--the school secretary was kind, but clearly distressed about the fact that some issue with the new system was causing this to happen for many kids at the school.amyohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11905636007329165404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-56702220620289826032014-03-04T11:03:06.879-05:002014-03-04T11:03:06.879-05:00Anon. 8:41. I agree. There was a time (I am not co...Anon. 8:41. I agree. There was a time (I am not condoning going backwards) when African-American students and impoverished students were academically successful and VALUED their education. Each TEACHER measured EACH child and provided assistance accordingly. In addition academically successful students were "steered" toward college while others were prepared for much NEEDED vocational careers. INDIVIDUAL Student skills and interests were important. Today we are setting children up for failure. NOT everyone wants to go or can succeed in college. Let the teachers TEACH without micro managing or social engineering. Many of our students wish to help their families by having "shovel ready" jobs right out of (or in) HS. Bring back the PRIDE and watch our minority students soar and succeed. Unless of course...keeping us down and dependent is the REAL plan (the new slavery constructed by Democrats in sheeps clothing)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-64947834495831136892014-03-04T10:29:26.445-05:002014-03-04T10:29:26.445-05:00Not in this state.. You blame Democrats, the guy b...Not in this state.. You blame Democrats, the guy below you or Medicaid...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-60188552606574904332014-03-04T09:52:04.373-05:002014-03-04T09:52:04.373-05:00the blame? starts at the top as always.the blame? starts at the top as always.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-84462245104206658032014-03-04T09:42:49.962-05:002014-03-04T09:42:49.962-05:009:33, for the most part I agree but teachers are g...9:33, for the most part I agree but teachers are government employees. I don't think it would nice to be one of them. 8:48 I to am disappointed with the current state of affairs. Only 1/3 of teachers where given a raise. I thought it was for all teachers. Disturbing Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-31767889554520797292014-03-04T08:48:50.639-05:002014-03-04T08:48:50.639-05:00When I voted for Mcory and Tillis, I expected a co...When I voted for Mcory and Tillis, I expected a common sense approach to fix the top heavy mess that NC has become. I was hoping they would bring leadership and direction to our state. Being Republicans and believing in states rights, common core would be gone. Decisions would be local. Teachers would lose special protections but be given a hefty raise (to catch up for 6 years of loss) and a pay plane moving forward. what do we have? Excuses about what the Democrats did (just like Obama did with bush). Power school, being rushed in. 2 thirds of teachers without a pay raise or any plan moving forward. Common Core being forced on schools, that do not have the text or materials to meet the new standards. My sons teacher left during Christmas brake to take a job in another state. No one can blame him. What the hell is wrong with this state? Are we the only ones that owe money to the Feds for Medicaid? We have had a Republican controlled Congress for 2 years. Mcory has been in charge for over 1. All I hear is excuses. They came in bashing powerless teachers. Screwed up the master pay legislation. Took away career status but offered nothing in return. Created this weird 500 dollar to top 25% 4 year contract plan. Witch almost all parties involved agree, its more trouble then it's worth. What a mess. They are making it very hard to be a Republican.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-8580364795490513702014-03-04T08:46:30.560-05:002014-03-04T08:46:30.560-05:00From Ann's article this morning on the death o...From Ann's article this morning on the death of former East Meck principal Pop Miller: "Miller voiced frustration with being remembered as a black principal, rather than just a successful one."<br /><br />While I realize that both the state and feds require the racial and poverty breakdown (which I agree principals should easily be able to provide) one has to wonder when and if this obsession with divvying everyone up by race and now poverty is ever going to end. I<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-59914851297868266332014-03-04T08:41:39.128-05:002014-03-04T08:41:39.128-05:00Ann Doss Helms -- Maybe it's TIME for us a a s...Ann Doss Helms -- Maybe it's TIME for us a a society to do AWAY with collecting DATA on Race, Poverty, and Free Lunch. <br /><br />Why not just collect data on School Children's academic level, Schools and competence.<br /><br />Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-69042165437421272632014-03-04T08:32:59.989-05:002014-03-04T08:32:59.989-05:00Remember when we used to be able to count manually...Remember when we used to be able to count manually, without depending on technology and gadgets to do our work for us? I do not understand how principals of individual CMS schools cannot get accurate data to those in the ivory tower. Stop the excuses CMS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-50145270351362567692014-03-04T07:44:55.375-05:002014-03-04T07:44:55.375-05:00Wiley,
Scrubbing=Obfuscation=Smoke and Mirrors...Wiley,<br /> Scrubbing=Obfuscation=Smoke and Mirrors, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-42104604643072285162014-03-04T07:30:16.907-05:002014-03-04T07:30:16.907-05:00"Scott is scrubbing the numbers one last time...<i>"Scott is scrubbing the numbers one last time and, barring any additional issues, we will share the information early next week," she said.</i><br /><br />LOL... "scrubing the numbers".<br /><br />You either have accurate data or you don't.<br /><br />Also, was the question asked how Wake County seems to have data posted?<br /><br />Do they use a different detergent to "scrub" their numbers?<br /><br /><br /><br />Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.com