tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post832106542352396883..comments2023-10-23T09:23:22.051-04:00Comments on Your Schools: Tweet wars and teacher payUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-28075620070804984542014-05-15T08:10:50.839-04:002014-05-15T08:10:50.839-04:008:14 You are correct, why have I received 4 email...8:14 You are correct, why have I received 4 emails from my elementary school principal about the teacher pay issue? He should know better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-89252866670635031372014-05-13T09:14:25.940-04:002014-05-13T09:14:25.940-04:00Boyln,
"SHORTAGE?
No, there will not be a te...Boyln,<br /><br />"SHORTAGE?<br />No, there will not be a teacher shortage; just the inability to use them effectively. And there you have the magic word, “effective.” Maybe the discussion shouldn’t be about whether a teacher is effective but rather are they being effectively guided"?<br /><br />Well said although this doesn't address the pros and cons of an increasing number of lateral-entry routes into teaching including programs like Teach for America with so-called "higher quality" educators that haven't made much of a dent in closing the achievement gap because perhaps - as the Chair of the Department of Education at Harvard University notably stated - programs like TFA may be perpetuating the very things it is trying to solve.<br /><br />THERE IS A VERY REAL SHORTAGE OF MINORITY TEACHERS highlighted this week by the announcement of the closing of the Dept. of Education at Johnson C. Smith University due to a lack of student interest in this major which is playing itself out at other HBCU's (Historically Black Colleges and Universities) around the country. It appears college educated minority students aren't that interested in making $32,500 a year working as a teacher in the fine state of NC - or anywhere else for that matter. Where are the Glenn Singleton's of the world when it comes to this issue? <br /><br />Alicia<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-82876889376655743402014-05-12T09:57:09.995-04:002014-05-12T09:57:09.995-04:00CMS still requires more credit's then the rest...CMS still requires more credit's then the rest of the state. This is not the reason for graduation the graduation increases. All the math, science, English and history requirements are the same. I don't care if my kid takes less fluff courses. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-22888044358253906262014-05-11T21:57:18.410-04:002014-05-11T21:57:18.410-04:002:54
Surely you noticed all the question marks at...2:54<br /><br />Surely you noticed all the question marks at the end of the sentences denoting an ounce or two of sarcasm.<br /><br />Think about it. If we believe the hype/numbers put forth by CMS/state, then the analogy would hold true CMS achieved the graduation rate with high quality, certified teachers making less money than teachers in just about every other state.<br /><br />Right?Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-21812768417249458472014-05-11T14:54:31.458-04:002014-05-11T14:54:31.458-04:00Wiley..... YOU of all people are smarter than the ...Wiley..... YOU of all people are smarter than the stats.<br />High school Graduation rates have increased BECAUSE the graduation requirements were lowered from 28 credits to 24 credits. Please don't drink the Kool aid!!! The thought process is if we LOWER standards, pay and expectations of teachers (TFA's)we can achieve. REALLY??? How is this working for NC and Charlotte? Bright Flight to private, parochial and charter schools is the end result. Then our schools are "left" with unsuspecting, unseasoned teachers who leave in 2-3 years and students who have no hope.Soooo the "powers" lower the standards more and "Adjust" test scores. These decisions have nothing to do with teachers and our voices are NEVER listened to. The percieved success is a LIE!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-66987227794032383662014-05-11T13:05:57.795-04:002014-05-11T13:05:57.795-04:00Yes I do not understand how complex spending, poli...Yes I do not understand how complex spending, politics and results all relate in fixing things at CMS.<br /><br />So since I do not understand, I will only require, and pay for, results that I can understand<br /><br />That way the kids are not harmed by my lack of knowledge, or the harm CMS has inflicted all these years.<br /><br />And I agree with another poster, Teachers should go on strike. IF they are not getting what they should, they should be willing to fight for it.<br /><br />Same with kids, taxpayers and everyone involved in systems like CMS. Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07977808657926308272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-90385395091228251892014-05-11T12:55:35.328-04:002014-05-11T12:55:35.328-04:00Teachers will not strike in this state. They know ...Teachers will not strike in this state. They know it's not good for the kids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-90208469168575505862014-05-11T12:52:56.163-04:002014-05-11T12:52:56.163-04:00I think Booker T Washington would support the teac...I think Booker T Washington would support the teachers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-5459362070273935432014-05-11T12:47:04.951-04:002014-05-11T12:47:04.951-04:00I like fox Wiley, I just don't think the educa...I like fox Wiley, I just don't think the education issues they discuss are geared towards our state. Is taking away teachers tenure in my this state really going to affect anything? I know many people have issue with CMS but the teachers don't set the agenda or make policy. I know you have said, give them their pay back, with is funny because that's what most teachers want. I just think 7 years of frozen pay, being stuck in limbo and used as a political football is too much. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-64919728855643484942014-05-11T12:29:59.524-04:002014-05-11T12:29:59.524-04:00Smash, can you find any data showing the success o...Smash, can you find any data showing the success of charters. All I can find is fluff. It's opinions fore or against charters. They have been around awhile now. Comparing apples to apples, is there data showing success? I personally am for choice but only for choice sake. My children's education started the day they came home from the hospital.<br />I did also have friends with degrees in education that never taught. They, thought they would like it, until they student taught and realized it was not what they wanted. Not going to the bathroom when she needed to, drove my one girl friend nuts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-38921642462687905882014-05-11T11:46:49.882-04:002014-05-11T11:46:49.882-04:00Republicans have a real chance at getting a major ...Republicans have a real chance at getting a major Democratic talking point off the table. Make a plan, fund it and get it done. It's starting to get strange and make the state look bad. Business leaders though out the state are all for a teachers pay plan. We do not want teachers on national news getting arrested in a protest . Let's be honest, NC gets off pretty cheap on teachers pay and benefits compared to similar market's. Make a plan, run with it and move on. Republicans are going to lose independent's and the soccer mom vote if they don't get it done. The whole thing is weird and bad for NC. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-62783417679520212392014-05-11T10:42:23.596-04:002014-05-11T10:42:23.596-04:00TEACHERS
Go to New York where you can live off a ...TEACHERS<br /><br />Go to New York where you can live off a welfare benefits package of <br /><br />$38,000<br /><br />Most of you have been living off $3,000 LESS for the past 6 years!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-98076878830098792014-05-11T08:14:45.010-04:002014-05-11T08:14:45.010-04:00Parent backlash against CMS and teachers brewing a...Parent backlash against CMS and teachers brewing according to this article:<br /><br />http://pundithouse.com/2014/05/parent-backlash-to-cms-tactics/<br /><br />It seems that CMS has been using employee time, buildings, computer servers and e-mail to try and whip up public opinion against the State and County.<br /><br />This is a 'no-no' and against State law. State law says that government resources can't be used to promote increasing public funds (even to themselves). <br /><br />If true, CMS and these teachers groups may have to add illicit activity to their protest activity. <br /><br />If they want to stay out of trouble; don't develop, copy, print or distribute fliers. Don't hand them out at school as 'take-home', don't use CMS e-mail (and PTA e-mail which is hosted by CMS).<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-43163636901074568502014-05-11T08:09:19.360-04:002014-05-11T08:09:19.360-04:00Someone said the following previously: "So in...Someone said the following previously: "So in fact, we needed teachers to attend this meeting in order to advocate for our local supplement. Without it, CMS would not be competitive in teacher pay. As far as "following the rules", teachers in our state have to advocate on our own behalf because we are a right to join state." <br /><br />Bull. 'This' meeting wasn't even about CMS or teachers or other budget matters. The mob knew that in advance but wanted to change the agenda to suit them. This was a political attack using kids as props. They wanted the Commission to dare and deny 'the children' their chance - to dare to deny 'teachers' the right to say whatever they wanted.<br /><br />Our rules say that any group that comes down and wants to speak on something NOT on the agenda (and NOT the budget) gets a total of 10 minutes. With all those teachers grandstanding and yelling the discussion lasted one hour and 1/2.<br /><br />The teachers were arrogant, churlish and thought they could just ignore the rules. Some of them took the time to demean the Chair in front of kid. Just the sort of folks that parents want to teach their kids respect for authority (if they are raising an occupy protester).<br /><br />What is it about teachers union groups that ignores the rules and thinks they don't apply to them?<br /><br />They can come back on June 11th with everyone else.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-73592708562217368072014-05-10T20:02:18.580-04:002014-05-10T20:02:18.580-04:00Larry, you miss the whole point I was trying to ma...Larry, you miss the whole point I was trying to make, further exemplifying why our state ranks 46th in teacher salaries throughout the nation. The fix for all the problems in our education system - statewide, nationwide, and locally, is a complex, massive task. And it does not begin, end, or include, cutting, or freezing teacher salaries. Don't you get it? What value do you place on the care, safety, and education of our children? That's my point - not the myriad of problems that envelop education, not the inability of teachers to "put the magic back in the classroom" while administering individualized, lengthy, state-mandated tests. I'm simply saying that if a person isn't willing to fairly compensate the educators and caregivers of their children, then they don't value their children very much. <br />Telling me what I need to hear? I've heard it all before, and it makes as little sense now as it has all the other time. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-89369657204446662242014-05-10T16:09:54.674-04:002014-05-10T16:09:54.674-04:00TEACHERS
Sit down and shut up
or
Organize and S...TEACHERS<br /><br />Sit down and shut up<br /><br />or<br /><br />Organize and STRIKE <br /><br />Anyone can strike even in a " Right to Work " state like NC. You bleeding heart teachers need to wake up and smell that early coffee on your 7 AM start time. Good luck living on your border line poverty pay scale for the next 3 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-62113470905308540972014-05-10T09:50:00.249-04:002014-05-10T09:50:00.249-04:00We are state employees, but it is the job of the c...We are state employees, but it is the job of the county to account for the differences in cost of living. It takes 10 years within CMS to get over a $40,000 salary. There have been increases if you get an advanced degree, but the state is getting rid of those too. In the first 10 years of a career, how many people get married, have children, and buy a home? How is that possible with a $35,417.50 salary? CMS is not just in competition with other school districts in North Carolina. CMS is in competition with bigger districts in the country. How can CMS and the state attract the best teachers without meaningful compensation? <br /><br />The BOCC has an opportunity to LEAD the state and put education first rather than playing the same blame game the state legislature is. We all know the state legislature isn't the most competent group out there. Why can't the BOCC be better?Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-43640671563497388382014-05-10T08:56:03.469-04:002014-05-10T08:56:03.469-04:00Does the state provide teacher salaries? Yes. Do...Does the state provide teacher salaries? Yes. Do teachers know that? Yes. If you scroll up and look at the second paragraph of this article, you will be reminded that one of the reasons teachers choose to teach in CMS is because we have a better local supplement. LOCAL supplement. As it states, a budget proposal will soon be going to the COMMISSIONERS to approve that would impact a raise in teacher pay. So in fact, we needed teachers to attend this meeting in order to advocate for our local supplement. Without it, CMS would not be competitive in teacher pay. As far as "following the rules", teachers in our state have to advocate on our own behalf because we are a right to join state. This kind of treatment would not fly in Chicago or New York because of the strength of their teacher unions. You think we are uneducated? No. We are simply unsupported. <br /><br />So thanks for proving us right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-71163414087157346352014-05-10T08:45:08.251-04:002014-05-10T08:45:08.251-04:00Anon 8:46pm.
"Every one who has a teaching d...Anon 8:46pm.<br /><br />"Every one who has a teaching degree must want to teach."<br /><br />Well, I would HOPE the thought of teaching at least crossed their minds before they went to all the trouble of getting that degree.<br /><br />But who knows, for many, maybe that's just one of many poor decisions they've made in their lives.<br /><br />Shamashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-55270044144772418662014-05-10T08:36:41.158-04:002014-05-10T08:36:41.158-04:00How do you attract talented people to any field? ...How do you attract talented people to any field? Salary. How do you get great people from turning over and moving to a different field of work?<br /><br />I want the best and brightest working with my kids on a daily basis. Teaching is hard, long work. It is different than it was 20 years ago. Most teachers I know work 40-50 hours a week in the school and then another 20 at home. They do get a month off in the summer, but if you average the workload throughout the school year with the summer, it ends up being no more than the 2 to 3 weeks of leave regular jobs get.<br /><br />The fact that NC is below the national average in pay is embarrassing. The fact that NC is well below the regional pay is appalling. Our kids deserve the best. My kids deserve the best. We cannot keep losing great people to VA and SC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-14083203509040283662014-05-10T05:54:54.209-04:002014-05-10T05:54:54.209-04:00Ann Please post this three times.
I do not believ...Ann Please post this three times.<br /><br />I do not believe I started the comparison between McDon....<br /><br />Oh I get it. <br /><br />Yes Teachers should get more money and I should not question the results.<br /><br />They have no control of the situation and therefore they should not be questioned. <br /><br />We should only look at Raleigh, Parents, Strangers, People who do not vote like us, Media, buildings which are more than six months old keeping these kids from learning, School Administration, etc.<br /><br />Teachers are sacred and are not part of the solution, so no need to ask them to be. <br /><br />Got it. <br /><br />I bet a lot of Teachers out there know they can fix things, but for some reason are just sitting back. <br /><br />But if not. then the ones I volunteered with have told me one thing while living another. <br /><br />I will be happy to invest in a good working system. Heck we have done that for decades but the results are just more fluffed up reports of success at CMS.<br /><br />Get things working first, and raises will not be the only reward Teachers will create.<br /><br />Get the magic back in the classroom where the majority of kids were there to learn, and the Teacher had control of their classrooms, as they ignited hopes and ideas. <br /><br />I once did a thing where I went out to the High Schools in Charlotte/Mecklenburg and took pictures of the Teachers lot and the Students Lot. Then asked folks to say which was which, based on the cars.<br /><br />So sorry if I am not saying the things you want to hear, I am saying the things you need to hear.<br /><br />And we all are to blame for letting it get to this point in our system. So sorry if you think I am upset with Teachers, they are the one ones I can see who can really turn this around. <br /><br />But if the only motivation today, is more money, then something is wrong, very wrong. <br /> Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07977808657926308272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-35519868458664945442014-05-09T23:49:51.295-04:002014-05-09T23:49:51.295-04:008:04
From 3 1/2 years ago:
The National Board fo...8:04<br /><br />From 3 1/2 years ago:<br /><br />The National Board for Professional Teacher Standards has announced that 288 Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools teachers have earned National Board Certification this year – the largest number of new certifications in the district’s history.<br /><br /> <b>The district ranks third nationally with 1,739 certified teachers.</b><br /><br /> According to the board, North Carolina has 2,277 newly certified National Board teachers in public school classrooms. They bring the state’s total number of National Board Certified Teachers to 17,957, accounting for almost one-fifth of the nation’s National Board-certified teachers.<br /><br />CMS' graduation rate was 81% last year and they did it with all these board certified teachers, so why should they get paid more? Doesn't the argument "paying teachers more won't make a difference in achievent" ring true? <br /><br />It seems to me with an 81% graduation rate we're getting a great bang for our buck?Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-86236489317172815402014-05-09T23:39:05.638-04:002014-05-09T23:39:05.638-04:007:33
My comment want to another RN who posted at ...7:33<br /><br />My comment want to another RN who posted at 1:40.<br /><br />It seems there is a contradiction between RNs....<br /><br />Regarding "getting what you pay for", it seems for the past 40+ years that we have been getting lousy teachers based on your comment, as public education only equaled the highest graduation rate since 1970 in 2013. <br /><br />Also, one of the main reasons for the rate getting better is more scrutiny on dropouts and getting them back into schools.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-36992331684867663242014-05-09T23:35:08.003-04:002014-05-09T23:35:08.003-04:00Larry, to give you an example of how many hours te...Larry, to give you an example of how many hours teachers work...I arrive at 7:00 a.m. and most days stay until 5:30 or 6:00 p.m. I take my class to the cafeteria and if we are fortunate enough to have a monitor on duty I get to go to the bathroom and eat my lunch in 20 minutes while checking emails from parents or colleagues. I take papers home to grade Every night and write lesson plans on the weekend. Since I teach five subjects I'm writing 25 plans per week plus posting grades and preparing materials for each lesson. This summer I will take classes and plan units of study for next year. The idea that teachers have summers off is humorous. People think that we just show up and teach and leave...reality couldn't be farther from that idea. <br /><br />http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/05/08/4897279/legislator-gets-lesson-in-the.html#.U22d_Ce9KK0Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-66414774782779392014-05-09T23:02:31.521-04:002014-05-09T23:02:31.521-04:008:39...
Thanks for the info. I never saw anything...8:39...<br /><br />Thanks for the info. I never saw anything of that nature on Fox News so it appears you've been watching it more than I have.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.com