tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post309087082652954190..comments2023-10-23T09:23:22.051-04:00Comments on Your Schools: Project LIFT teachers: Absent more than studentsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-49948964777762535252013-09-13T12:03:24.132-04:002013-09-13T12:03:24.132-04:00I am with Ann on this one.
I cannot believe there ...I am with Ann on this one.<br />I cannot believe there is even one person who would say an average 9.9 absences doen't have a huge academic effect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-10807117810955420272013-09-13T11:33:14.395-04:002013-09-13T11:33:14.395-04:0010:09, I'm not sure what significant academic ...10:09, I'm not sure what significant academic gains you mean. The grad rate was huge, and I covered that prominently when it was released and mentioned it again in the main story about this report. The test scores are still unknown. This is an early look at data provided to school board but not discussed publicly. I'd be shocked if anyone argued that teacher absences are irrelevant to student achievement -- I think the opposite is true. You not only want to hire great teachers, you want to have them in front of the class, with a minimum of reliance on subs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-74176801635206163992013-09-13T10:09:48.516-04:002013-09-13T10:09:48.516-04:00Anne,
It seems to me that this story should ha...Anne, <br /><br />It seems to me that this story should have been about the significant gains that Project LIFT made rather than highlighting an administrative/operational issue that doesn't seem to have had a negative impact on student outcomes. I'm curious why you chose this particular lead-in? <br /><br />It appear that academic strategy is working and that work still needs to be done on behavior. That could be done with character education.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-51364328947429065092013-09-12T12:20:46.638-04:002013-09-12T12:20:46.638-04:00As long as this CMS BOE is in power there will be ...As long as this CMS BOE is in power there will be no real improvement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-41847192153447211962013-09-12T08:46:18.235-04:002013-09-12T08:46:18.235-04:00Anon 6:47pm.
I guess in your world, you right a w...Anon 6:47pm.<br /><br />I guess in your world, you right a wrong with another wrong.<br /><br />That's what most people call "revenge", not "justice".<br /><br />Whether "ironic" or "justified", it's still good enough reason for the people adversely affected to find alternatives.<br /><br />Which they did and still do.<br /><br />Despite herculean efforts by our government to force people to do what they didn't want to do.<br /><br />So much for "forced" integration, eh?<br /><br />Just look where it has left us today with so many wailing about "re-segregation".<br /><br />A much more sane, simple, and direct solution to the problem back then would have been to simply let the kids go to their local schools, regardless of their race.<br /><br />But that was too simple for the social engineers of that era.<br /><br />And apparently even for many of the like-minded today.<br /><br />And it will fail as usual.Shamashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-48849284909715923692013-09-12T08:42:17.250-04:002013-09-12T08:42:17.250-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Shamashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-60910628337326263282013-09-11T22:39:41.883-04:002013-09-11T22:39:41.883-04:00Here is a 2007 report by Terry Sanford Institute o...Here is a 2007 report by Terry Sanford Institute of Public Policy<br />Duke University, posted on the NCDPI website titled:<br /><br />Reducing Teacher Absences in North Carolina<br /><br />A Report for<br />The North Carolina Department of Public Instruction<br /><br />http://www.ncpublicschools.org/docs/intern-research/reports/teacherabsences.pdf<br /><br />One key paragraph from the report:<br /><br /><i>Background (pages 4-5)<br /><br />Teacher absences occur more often in schools with higher percentages of low-income students and higher percentages of students reading below grade level. The leave policy of a district significantly influences teacher usage of leave days. Moreover, incentive programs and good working conditions can play a role in reducing teacher absenteeism. Under current leave policy, teachers earn several types of leave, but the most common type of leave taken by teachers on instructional days is sick leave.</i>Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-12780250781323247402013-09-11T22:22:08.327-04:002013-09-11T22:22:08.327-04:00Students are allowed to recover their days after s...Students are allowed to recover their days after school and on Saturdays. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-15878976626669757722013-09-11T22:19:18.104-04:002013-09-11T22:19:18.104-04:00would family leave (i.e. maternity) or absences du...would family leave (i.e. maternity) or absences due to medical procedures counted in with the average?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-69519787379296715612013-09-11T21:58:53.287-04:002013-09-11T21:58:53.287-04:00Here is the CMS Employee Leave Policy:
http://www...Here is the CMS Employee Leave Policy:<br /><br />http://www.cms.k12.nc.us/Jobs/benefits/leaves/Pages/PaidTimeOffPolicies.aspxWiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-79444792452133306112013-09-11T21:14:17.370-04:002013-09-11T21:14:17.370-04:00In addition to how this compares to absences distr...In addition to how this compares to absences district-wide, I would be curious to know how they calculated teacher absences. Was it an average of 9.9 absences on instructional days in which teachers called in sick or took personal leave? Does it include leave for professional development? Does it include absences on teacher workdays which are not instructional days? If it includes TWDs then it's not an apples-to-apples comparison from teachers to students. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-22858358890408654962013-09-11T20:48:40.126-04:002013-09-11T20:48:40.126-04:00Sad story: Progressive discipline led to firing a ...Sad story: Progressive discipline led to firing a good employee for excessive absenteeism. In the dismissal meeting the employee's response was "I missed more time in HS and it was OK". I really felt sorry for the employee and his family - he probably never will understand.<br />If CMS is giving diplomas to so many students with high absenteeism it is not preparing students for the real world....apparently unless they are teachers.<br />Wow - we are in such trouble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-12776551369457597112013-09-11T20:35:46.610-04:002013-09-11T20:35:46.610-04:00Averages hide a lot of information.
With the avera...Averages hide a lot of information.<br />With the average of 9.9 absences there are probably quite a few teachers with significantly more than 15 days absent. Are these teachers still employed? <br />Is this a system wide problem?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-50731966725524858912013-09-11T19:54:02.861-04:002013-09-11T19:54:02.861-04:007:44 asks a good question. Ann, I would be willing...7:44 asks a good question. Ann, I would be willing to bet that the problem you described isn't just at the LIFT schools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-49475195855943586472013-09-11T19:25:50.613-04:002013-09-11T19:25:50.613-04:00Shouldnt Ms. Watts evaluation have employee absenc...Shouldnt Ms. Watts evaluation have employee absence as part of her pay for performance?<br /><br />Oh,she is not overseen or evaluated by anyone. Money well spent indeed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-7909163060394674082013-09-11T18:47:53.456-04:002013-09-11T18:47:53.456-04:00Sham ash.... I don't think IRONIC is the right...Sham ash.... I don't think IRONIC is the right word. I might argue justified. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-83742619390019180412013-09-11T18:28:34.112-04:002013-09-11T18:28:34.112-04:00Anon 5:11
Yes, but the original Brown V. was abou...Anon 5:11<br /><br />Yes, but the original Brown V. was about a little schoolgirl who had to walk to take a bus and ride past her local white school to a black school.<br /><br />And the "solution" meant MILLIONS of kids had to take a bus to ride past their local white school to a black school.<br /><br />Odd how that wasn't seen as a "problem" until white people started leaving in droves.<br /><br />You may argue that it was for a "good" cause, but the solution was still a bit ironic.<br /><br />Shamashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-25498480540393717032013-09-11T17:55:53.289-04:002013-09-11T17:55:53.289-04:00The data they cooked to give your is more loaded t...The data they cooked to give your is more loaded than a PR release from CMS PR staff. Of course Ms. Watts would never support the numbers with factual data so don't bother asking. Keith W. Hurley<br />VOTE NO BONDS !!!!!!!<br />We already have empty schools. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-45143984455258904492013-09-11T17:54:19.494-04:002013-09-11T17:54:19.494-04:00Your child will get lost and fall through the crac...Your child will get lost and fall through the cracks in an Ardrey kell classroom, most low performing to mediocre students do.bobby mcgeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-31071653470518449912013-09-11T17:11:13.475-04:002013-09-11T17:11:13.475-04:00Sham ash the whole Brown v. BOE was part of a seri...Sham ash the whole Brown v. BOE was part of a series of Cases brought before the SC in hopes of planting the seeds for the actual Federal Enforcement of the 14th amendment and the dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the Deep South. Hundreds of cases were presented but this one had the most teeth. The plan was to guarantee a 9-0 ruling which would thankfully pave the way for equal rights throughout the entire country. It just so happened that school houses were the plaintiff chosen by the SC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-9003123761030777432013-09-11T17:05:36.823-04:002013-09-11T17:05:36.823-04:00Anon 11:12 do your homework. You mention MPHS and...Anon 11:12 do your homework. You mention MPHS and complain about inadequacies??? How about the fact that your blind assumptions about the student population their has MORE DISADVANTAGED or whatever you have called them than schools like WCHS. .and I QUOTE......... In high schools, the most money per student went to Midwood High, an alternative school for high-risk students. The district spent $10,086 per student at Midwood, compared to $4,538 at Hopewell High in Huntersville. Myers Park High ranked second for the least funding per student with $4,584. The district average was $5,310........... Yet MPHS continues to do MORE with less and in many cases 3,000 and 4,000 less PER KID!!! <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-79252830464197712792013-09-11T15:33:54.888-04:002013-09-11T15:33:54.888-04:00Well said. I'm alumni and staff at WC. I preac...Well said. I'm alumni and staff at WC. I preach this all the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-90942750463177215582013-09-11T11:54:58.699-04:002013-09-11T11:54:58.699-04:00As long as there is still inequality among the Ami...As long as there is still inequality among the Amish there isn't much hope for the rest of the world...Shamashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-63683391299244812542013-09-11T11:31:50.164-04:002013-09-11T11:31:50.164-04:00The world isn't homogeneous for sure.
It'...The world isn't homogeneous for sure.<br /><br />It's definitely stratified.<br /><br />Everyone doesn't have a home in Beverly Hills, do they?<br /><br />So why shouldn't schools be stratified?<br /><br />(See, that argument goes both ways.)<br /><br />I can say "integration" doesn't work simply because when left to their own, people quite often re-segregate.<br /><br />They do this among lines of class, sex, race, income, education, etc., etc.<br /><br />You can see this just about everywhere you go.<br /><br />(Even churches on Sunday during "the most segregated hour of the week".)<br /><br />It's a world-wide phenomenon as well.<br /><br />Also, when you mix folks for the benefit of the "disadvantaged" it is often to the detriment of the "advantaged" (which usually goes unmeasured and unsaid).<br /><br />Which is why, when given a choice and a chance, the "advantaged" often leave, especially if they are being mixed by force.<br /><br />After all, they didn't get to be "advantaged" by being chumps.<br /><br />And you ask why are YOU paying for Ardrey Kell?<br /><br />Don't you think the parents of kids at Ardrey Kell pay more than their share?<br /><br />And probably get less per tax dollar input into the schools.<br /><br />(Except for the RESULTS of the education which are largely due to the efforts of the students and parents, not the infrastructure.)<br /><br />Why should the Ardrey Kell parents pay for the smaller class sizes the urban crowd gets today?<br /><br />Besides, if you moved ALL the "disadvantaged" kids to Ardrey Kell, it would become a "disadvantaged" school, too.<br /><br />Because it's the people (mostly students and parents) that make the difference.<br /><br />And you don't change them much by simply moving them around to make the underachievers look and feel better about themselves.<br /><br />At best, you just annoy those who are already doing well, so they leave.<br /><br />And failure continues to spread.<br /><br />Shamashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-26737659322914594022013-09-11T11:29:11.394-04:002013-09-11T11:29:11.394-04:0011:12...
141,171 students in CMS.
59,292 African...11:12...<br /><br />141,171 students in CMS.<br /><br />59,292 African American students<br /><br />25,411 Hispanic students<br /><br />7,058 Asian students<br /><br />4,235 American Indian/multi-racial students<br />-------------<br />95,996 Total minority students<br /><br />45,175 White students<br /><br />Since 68% of CMS is minority, how do you propose to integrate the schools? <br /><br />What are the disparities? Since the reported number of students in poverty in CMS is 76,232 and they get more funding per pupil plus other incentives the remaining 64, 939 students do not get and have to pay more for their education, what are the disparities?Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.com