tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post6048433423253783423..comments2023-10-23T09:23:22.051-04:00Comments on Your Schools: CMS per-pupil spending report is outUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-34233101018233706792012-01-17T00:52:27.936-05:002012-01-17T00:52:27.936-05:00Let's clear up the subject on "double dip...Let's clear up the subject on "double dipping". The state of NC teaching district put out a call to all retired teachers to come back to work because of a teacher shortage. The incentive was keep your pension and draw a salary. It was legal. Over the years some teachers took the offer. When the economy took a turn for the worst, NC could no longer practice this incentive,understandable. But what CMS is not telling the public is that many of these teachers that were let go,are willing to come back to work, (coming out of retirement). The NC state says it is legal, if you rescind your retirement and contribute back into the retirement system. CMS does not want to pay these veteran's salaries. Instead they hire substitutes,FTA's that leave in two years and as their own adds put it, you don't need a degree in teaching. Face it, teachers are retiring now because CMS is an ineffective educational institute that has been managed very badly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-10094474408886557892012-01-16T22:38:52.589-05:002012-01-16T22:38:52.589-05:00Forcefully integrating CMS schools now will be a m...Forcefully integrating CMS schools now will be a much more difficult task. Not only are there more people here that would not tolerate this but the NC legislature has a much different outlook at failed liberal experiments. <br /><br />Based upon how the student population at CMS has changed, the hoopla may be just that, a bunch of talk to make these people "legends in their own minds".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-35844467591636951882012-01-16T21:51:26.872-05:002012-01-16T21:51:26.872-05:00The Swann's original complaint was valid and t...The Swann's original complaint was valid and they did what they felt was right for their child, just as my parents did in a similar circumstance for me back in 1969.<br /><br />...but the Swanns still "demand" integration 47 years later....<br /><br />That argument is over.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-709056162617929772012-01-16T21:16:21.471-05:002012-01-16T21:16:21.471-05:00Here is what the Swanns had to say about integrati...Here is what the Swanns had to say about integration in the letter. <br /><br />"We believe that an integrated school will best prepare young people for responsibility in an integrated society. Having lived practically all of his life in India, James has never known the meaning of racial segregation. We have been happy to watch him grow and develop with an unaffected openness to people of all races and background, and we feel it our duty as parents to insure that this healthy development continue."<br /><br />Again, the Swanns will tell you that integrated schooling was their main goal for their son. The dry tone of the paragraph about proximity compared with the more heartfelt tone of the integration paragraph, underscores that priority.Pamela Grundynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-29295456198865996112012-01-16T20:57:19.234-05:002012-01-16T20:57:19.234-05:00Ann,
I was actually in the middle of typing a res...Ann,<br /><br />I was actually in the middle of typing a response to something in the story when it poofed.<br /><br />Good timing eh?Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-81164261346111198672012-01-16T20:53:52.966-05:002012-01-16T20:53:52.966-05:00Anon 5:54...
The original linked worked for somer...Anon 5:54...<br /><br />The original linked worked for somereason but here it is from another...hope this one works.<br /><br />http://speccollexhibit.omeka.net/items/show/23Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-48698539439557791372012-01-16T19:11:06.676-05:002012-01-16T19:11:06.676-05:00Yep, neighborhood school! Got it! Thanks for the...Yep, neighborhood school! Got it! Thanks for the letter. Got it bookmarked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-78341752513070189502012-01-16T17:54:17.237-05:002012-01-16T17:54:17.237-05:00Wiley, Could not access the letter through your li...Wiley, Could not access the letter through your link but found this one:http://evolvingexhibits.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/swann-letter.jpg <br /><br />Hope it works for others.<br /><br /> Mr. Swann gave 3 reasons for asking that his son be reassigned to Seversville School: 1)so he could go to the nearest school (i.e. the neighborhood school), 2)so he could attend an integrated school, 3)there had been plenty of precedent for the board reassigning students on request.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-31844602270645818212012-01-16T17:31:19.536-05:002012-01-16T17:31:19.536-05:00Wiley, you must live on this blog! I poofed that i...Wiley, you must live on this blog! I poofed that item myself. It was intended to accompany a Sunday story, which my editors failed to tell me had been held to make room for a murder story. So once I saw my paper, I pulled the item and am about to reset it to post tomorrow. Let's just hope my story actually runs then, too.Ann Doss Helmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511764376105157616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-56511524257211191522012-01-16T17:03:06.765-05:002012-01-16T17:03:06.765-05:00Swann's letter to then CMS BOE...
http://s3.a...Swann's letter to then CMS BOE...<br /><br />http://s3.amazonaws.com/omeka-net%2F973%2Farchive%2Ffiles%2F9a90580f6a06ff638761140130310d3b.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAI3ATG3OSQLO5HGKA&Expires=1326751694&Signature=1wEaYSMpqCUS9NCSPnmtwlzDfHA%3D<br /><br />This should squelch erroneous <br />information.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-75930240838544597552012-01-16T16:16:07.184-05:002012-01-16T16:16:07.184-05:00For clarity, the "frequent poster" cited...For clarity, the "frequent poster" cited from the May 9 blog was me. For further clarity the "issue" to which I was referring was testing madness and pay for performance, not per-pupil spending. I still find it silly when people try to suggest that Mecklenburg ACTS' opposition to testing madness is somehow connected to a secret plan to bring back busing. <br /><br />In addition, Darius and Vera Swann did not file their lawsuit because they wanted their son to go to a neighborhood school. They filed it because they wanted him to go to an integrated school. Their intentions are well-documented historically, and for what it's worth I've also heard them say it themselves. I hope that Forum posters will cease from misrepresenting their intentions.Pamela Grundynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-45791514931038346252012-01-16T13:37:12.405-05:002012-01-16T13:37:12.405-05:00I looked at last year's school funding report ...I looked at last year's school funding report on the state web site the other day. I was curious if Leandro had panned out. Lo and behold, the top funded counties (Leandro counties) in this case were getting $10k to $13K per student and the county was essentially excused from funding the school system. (BTW, the technical term for a school system is LEA, local education authority. There are 115 in the state of NC.) As for state funding to Mecklenburg and Wake Counties, their funding level was around $4400 ranking them like 103, 105 ranked or close to that. The state's view was these counties were well off enough that they could pick up the funding levels. <br /><br />So, in the end, we the county taxpayers are stuck again. The state constitution says LEA's are only responsible for supplying buildings. While I do not bemoan paying teachers better than the state does, I bemoan we citizens do not have much recourse when a BOE decides to put the screws on the taxpaying portion of the population, allowing non taxpayers to vote on bonds they do not pay back, and a BOE denies capacity in population growth areas of the county but chooses to build/rebuild schools not needed in certain areas seen by the need for closing those and nearly crippling this county in debt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-80186023378839202442012-01-16T13:34:25.496-05:002012-01-16T13:34:25.496-05:00From 8:56:
"Schools around the country were...From 8:56: <br />"Schools around the country were actively hunting out deliberate acts of discrimination against blacks so they could justify to the feds they needed more money to right past wrongs."<br /><br />During the past ten years local activists were doing (and are probably still doing) much the same thing, although they were/are concentrating on disparate results and framing that as proof of discrimination. Probably not interested in more federal money but instead a return to more federal control (and, I suspect, the power trip they get from "taking care" of the folks in districts 2, 3, and 4, who they seem to feel can't take care of themselves).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-35950423618755683792012-01-16T12:41:16.118-05:002012-01-16T12:41:16.118-05:00To Anon 8:56a
To support your get federal dollars...To Anon 8:56a<br /><br />To support your get federal dollars point, CMS joined Leandro so as not to be left out when the money it thought would be forthcoming was distributed.<br /><br />Guess it didn't see that the Achievement Zone wouldn't be free.<br /><br />Bolyn McClung<br />PinevilleBolynMcClunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02938579006144446381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-12640677025524745262012-01-16T11:06:32.002-05:002012-01-16T11:06:32.002-05:00Swann and company have spent years making sure tha...Swann and company have spent years making sure that we continue to view everything through the lens of race, which of course means divide, divide, divide. Keeps Community Building Initiative, Crossroads, Meck Ministries,the Levine Museum, etc. in business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-56003615352502048142012-01-16T11:00:14.339-05:002012-01-16T11:00:14.339-05:00The point I'm trying to make is that some peop...The point I'm trying to make is that some people still have that worn out diversity-guiding-principle ingrained in their brains and use it to drive all programs.<br /><br />It doesn't matter whether they try to use race or income diversity.<br /><br />Take the Director of Project LIFT who said: <i>"I grew up just like many of these kids, so I feel morally and professionally obligated to work towards ending the dual system of education based on a child's zip code."</i><br /><br />How would you go about applying that statement to Detroit Public Schools?<br /><br />It's that backwards thinking that damns kids before they even start school by telling them they won't succeed because of where they live.<br /><br />That sort of thinking does a disservice to all children.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-6080128667472238762012-01-16T10:36:52.227-05:002012-01-16T10:36:52.227-05:00Ha, you know the answer to that WC. It only chang...Ha, you know the answer to that WC. It only changes once you have run most of the whites out, run most of the conservatives out, and run out most of the businesses you could blackmail. <br /><br />It was laughable the title of the Swann report. It is entitled Racial Isolation of Whites". Ha, it will be a cold day in you know where before you can convince me they care anything about white kids.<br /><br />I would not be so dead against anything CMS does addressing educating poor kids if I thought they truly cared about poor white kids. They are so for the "urban" title it should sicken any true believer of the Constitution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-89866251501939793462012-01-16T10:27:56.277-05:002012-01-16T10:27:56.277-05:00...I wonder how Detroit Public Schools practices &......I wonder how Detroit Public Schools practices "diversity"...<br /><br />...I wonder how the "achievement gap" is measured in Detroit Public Schools....<br /><br />Detroit Public Schools.... 2.5% White.<br /><br />Detroit Public Schools...all 100,000 kids get FREE lunch...<br /><br />Detroit Public Schools...24% to 62%graduation rate (depending on which report you want to believe)...<br /><br />At some point, children have to learn no matter what their skin color is, household income is or where they live.<br /><br />Until the mindset changes, the way funding is changed and excuses eliminated, there will be no improvement in CMS or public education as a whole.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-66741250000345600942012-01-16T09:28:59.779-05:002012-01-16T09:28:59.779-05:00In conjunction with the comments on this blog abou...In conjunction with the comments on this blog about the new board's possible inclination to return to some form of busing--below is a link to a July presentation by Dr. Roz Mickelson to the Tuesday Morning Breakfast Forum. Takes a little time to go through the question and answer videos but extremely instructive, especially in light of Swann Fellowship's recent graphs showing the "isolation of white students" in CMS. <br /> <br />Roz Mickelson link: http://www.tueforumclt.org/NewsPages/11Q3/110712Mickelson.htm<br /><br />Swann Link: http://www.swannfellowship.org/<br /><br />You can see that there has been some organized effort around trying to make this a federal issue once again.<br /><br />Sharon StarksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-11752160665110510432012-01-16T08:56:45.435-05:002012-01-16T08:56:45.435-05:00Boyln, 1:12 AM post, (are you on the west coast th...Boyln, 1:12 AM post, (are you on the west coast this week?).<br /><br />2 corrections, 2001 unitary decision was Cappichione (Gauvreau), not Belk. Belk was an intervenor supporting the school board and continued busing.<br /><br />Second, there was no exit strategy under Green. CMS exited forcefully against their will by Cappichione. Green did provide 5 test conditions however CMS was not interested in ending the federal court order. Interesting that a school system wanted to continue being seen as a discriminatory institution against blacks rather than solving the issue. CMS paraded a couple of teachers into the court who testified they deliberately discriminated against blacks and that section of the courtroonm applauded. The teachers should have been dismissed but they were deemed heroes.<br /><br />Schools around the country were actively hunting out deliberate acts of discrimination against blacks so they could justify to the feds they needed more money to right past wrongs. However they were not required to prove the expenditures would do so. Essentially prostitutes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-66331926527609720042012-01-16T08:49:14.132-05:002012-01-16T08:49:14.132-05:00From a frequent poster May 9, 2011:
"Actual...From a frequent poster May 9, 2011:<br /><br /><br />"Actually what's been interesting about this whole thing is to see those folks who for some reason seem to be terminally consumed with resentment over busing flounder around trying to connect this issue with their pet obsession. I wouldn't describe this as ironic, though. I think pathetic is a better choice."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-90602353945045434712012-01-16T08:12:44.727-05:002012-01-16T08:12:44.727-05:00From 10:19--Sarcasm, Wiley, sarcasm.From 10:19--Sarcasm, Wiley, sarcasm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-24680612711677147142012-01-15T22:47:04.844-05:002012-01-15T22:47:04.844-05:00Anon 10:19
30 days ago from the Justice Departmen...Anon 10:19<br /><br />30 days ago from the Justice Department... <br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />Guidance<br /><br />Department of Justice and Department of Education Joint Guidance on the Voluntary Use of Race<br /><br />Assistant Attorney General, Thomas E. Perez, and Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights in the Department of Education, Russlynn Ali, <b>have posted joint guidance on the voluntary use of race to achieve diversity or avoid racial isolation in schools.</b> The guidance is intended to help schools, colleges, and universities lawfully achieve compelling interests in diversity, and for K-12 schools, the additional compelling interest in avoiding racial isolation. The guidance is presented in two documents, one for elementary and secondary schools and the other for postsecondary institutions.<br /><br />Guidance letter<br /><br />http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/edu/documents/guidanceletter.pdf<br /><br />Elementary and secondary school guidance<br /><br />http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/edu/documents/guidanceelem.pdf<br /><br />Postsecondary education guidance<br /><br />http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/edu/documents/guidancepost.pdfWiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-15301017732810777052012-01-15T22:19:01.243-05:002012-01-15T22:19:01.243-05:00Oh come on, folks. We know it is foolish and tiri...Oh come on, folks. We know it is foolish and tiring to be concerned about a return to some sort of busing scheme.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-17392509354624886862012-01-15T21:34:20.079-05:002012-01-15T21:34:20.079-05:00Your neighborhood school could easily be on the op...Your neighborhood school could easily be on the opposite side of town if that is what the BOE defines where your neighborhood goes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com