tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post8940911362754024604..comments2023-10-23T09:23:22.051-04:00Comments on Your Schools: Teacher to NC: It's breakup timeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger99125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-40611655809886853222014-05-15T19:49:36.181-04:002014-05-15T19:49:36.181-04:00Well said, Ben Stine said something very similar. ...Well said, Ben Stine said something very similar. Why do we not study successful students.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-56660817743287051002014-05-15T19:31:51.835-04:002014-05-15T19:31:51.835-04:00Nice try sonnie boy. What? Where do you people com...Nice try sonnie boy. What? Where do you people come from?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-10854228525155432522014-05-15T19:29:52.132-04:002014-05-15T19:29:52.132-04:00Larry, I have not had a 2% raise. My check has onl...Larry, I have not had a 2% raise. My check has only decreased over the last 7 years. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-29687197028743517802014-05-15T09:14:24.204-04:002014-05-15T09:14:24.204-04:00Oh, yeah, the "poverty" excuse doesn'...Oh, yeah, the "poverty" excuse doesn't hold water in other countries, either, not just the US.<br /><br />From a UK perspective...<br /><br />"China’s poorest beat our best pupils"<br /><br />Children of factory workers and cleaners in Far East achieve better exam results than offspring of British lawyers and doctors, says OECD.<br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/10645090/Chinas-poorest-beat-our-best-pupils.html<br /><br />“They have a can-do attitude to maths, which contrasts with the long-term anti-maths culture that exists here,” <br /><br />Uh, oh, there it is again. That attitude thing towards learning.<br /><br />Something money cannot buy and no amount thrown at the "problem" will change.Shamashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-38238740682292051382014-05-14T18:47:17.355-04:002014-05-14T18:47:17.355-04:00I don't think teachers are asking for a raise....I don't think teachers are asking for a raise. I think they just want a plan like any other state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-8282137724875821492014-05-14T09:52:17.814-04:002014-05-14T09:52:17.814-04:00Anon 7:37 is spot on. Anon 7:37 is spot on. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-44405681926926680322014-05-14T08:55:06.357-04:002014-05-14T08:55:06.357-04:00Will,
And in case you are wondering, I WILL use r...Will,<br /><br />And in case you are wondering, I WILL use race, SES, and other forms of "identity" politics to COUNTER the ridiculous politically correct BS being thrust upon us all in the name of "education".<br /><br />So, YES, I will point out that poor white kids DO perform better than their economically better off black counterparts.<br /><br />(If it's THAT little un-PC tidbit that's getting your goat..)<br /><br />I do that to point out that there is something else going on that is NOT explained by the typical "poverty" excuse we are being fed on a daily basis.<br /><br />(I could just as easily have used the same information I've posted on the higher performance of poor kids in other countries -such as Korea and Vietnam - on the PISA tests, but those don't seem to hit "home" quite as hard).<br /><br />If nothing else, they are areas for further "research".<br /><br />Because that's what you do when you find facts that contradict the current prevailing "theories".<br /><br />(At least Sherlock Holmes would agree that exceptions disprove the rule).Shamashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-11567241114234101802014-05-14T08:27:32.470-04:002014-05-14T08:27:32.470-04:00Will,
" I think we all have an idea what you...Will,<br /><br />" I think we all have an idea what you think is the problem, however, please do share specifically your thoughts."<br /><br />I think I've posted enough for anyone to figure this out for themselves, but I will try to summarize this for you (and all the others who are tweeting from their cellphones instead of posting nearly complete sentences from a mainframe...)<br /><br />I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN OUR SCHOOLS IS SIMPLY A LACK OF EFFORT.<br /><br />(There, I said it in all caps, just like the old-style teletypes used on mainframes).<br /><br />It starts with the students and parents and extends to the schools (including many teachers and administrators, who are apparently in it by mistake or for the eventual bigger bucks in administration and consulting).<br /><br />We have become a nation of excuse makers instead of doers.<br /><br />We have a whole litany of "excuses" why "Johnny Can't Read" which extend from ethnicity to "disabilities" to economics and every other "measurable" attribute you can legally put on a Census form.<br /><br />Everything except:<br /><br />1. how well they behave, <br />2. how hard they study.<br /><br />Note that these are INDIVIDUAL behaviors and are NOT restricted to any class, color, or creed.<br /><br />They are available to EVERYONE who simply tries.<br /><br />And they are things that make the MOST difference in any class I've been in.<br /><br />They are ACTIONS not IDENTITY.<br /><br />But we all know that we cannot control what we cannot (or WILL NOT) measure, so all that gets ignored.<br /><br />So I also abhor political correctness because it forces everyone (not just me) to talk in terms of things like "race" and "poverty" (which are largely unchangeable, but popular windmills to tilt at).<br /><br />And PC forces people to propose silly "solutions" like "equality" and "eliminate poverty".<br /><br />Even though there are plenty of examples proving that it's not just money or "inequality" preventing kids from getting an education.<br /><br />Meanwhile, we IGNORE actions such as BEHAVING and STUDYING which make ALL the difference in education.<br /><br />In other words, the politically correct thing to do today is argue about everything from "identity" (mostly SES and ethnicity), and not from the decisions and actions people take.<br /><br />I'd like to see ONE, JUST ONE study in the education literature which cuts across ALL ethnic, SES, etc., groups to focus on what successful kids ACTUALLY DO that unsuccessful kids DON'T DO.<br /><br />I'll bet that behaving, and studying are high on that list.<br /><br />But that's too easy.<br /><br />And it doesn't rally enough people to "protest" on the courthouse doorsteps in the same way that money or race does.<br /><br />Please fill me in if you think I have any other ideas on the problem that I've missed here.<br /><br />But I think this pretty much sums it up.<br />Shamashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-41376233883156666402014-05-14T07:44:21.208-04:002014-05-14T07:44:21.208-04:00while we're comparing fort mill schools with C...while we're comparing fort mill schools with CMS, we don't have asinine high school start times of 7:15am either.Suzy Qnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-53513208637550332782014-05-14T07:15:14.401-04:002014-05-14T07:15:14.401-04:00What ever the issues, teachers should have a pay p...What ever the issues, teachers should have a pay plane. It's strange not to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-74761198810659058272014-05-13T21:41:55.778-04:002014-05-13T21:41:55.778-04:00Justin was in my graduating class, and we were wel...Justin was in my graduating class, and we were well aware of the pay scale. The pay scale was frozen! Therefore he is not getting the gradual increase in pay that he anticipated going into the profession. Justin is an outstanding educator, and I assure you that the awards he has received are not an easy feat. This is a loss for the state, and he isn't the only one! A dear friend of mine that was "Teacher of the Year" left her position at Christmas time to open her second yoga studio. She could make more money, and it was FAR LESS stressful! Just because a person is passionate about helping children learn, doesn't mean that they don't have to prioritize their family. This profession is lacking male teachers/role models, because of pay. <br /><br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-84270374493155770252014-05-13T21:29:24.735-04:002014-05-13T21:29:24.735-04:00Will,
The problem with public education continues...Will,<br /><br />The problem with public education continues to be the liberal mindset that has diversity at all cost as their driving principle.<br /><br />Forced busing to achieve integration failed miserably and we're still feeling the effects of it today.<br /><br />The lack of backbone today by politicians and educrats to put teeth into demanding parents be responsible for their children's education and not a "village".<br /><br />The "village", aka taxpayers, will provide tax dollars to put programs in place to help EVERY child have an opportunity to succeed.<br /><br />We will provide free lunches, testing, afterschool programs, etc. for anyone who truly and verifiable needs the extra help.<br /><br />We will not continue to pass through kids. They either get held back and then move forward or they don't.<br /><br />Let teachers teach and move the hell out of the way.<br /><br />But what can we really expect when the system is dumbed down, data is questionable or lack of it and the powers that be never have enough money or space even though enrollment is not skyrocketing?<br /><br />It's all a shell game.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-41426794486214295942014-05-13T21:20:00.272-04:002014-05-13T21:20:00.272-04:00It's a blog. Most people text. You may be olde...It's a blog. Most people text. You may be older. Do you use a desk top?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-11928165647538860662014-05-13T21:13:46.240-04:002014-05-13T21:13:46.240-04:00Justin " Burger King " Boy
You should h...Justin " Burger King " Boy<br /><br />You should have it your way. Bright Flight of the best and brightest will continue on and on. Teachers AND students will continue to leave CMeS in droves.<br /><br />Starting truck drivers make more than a 15 year veteran teacher with a Masters degree. Justin you could have been manager by now at BK with much better benefits. How could you continue to put your family in poverty ? What took you so long? You and CMeS should be ashamed of your decisions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-85427773391848858162014-05-13T19:37:08.258-04:002014-05-13T19:37:08.258-04:00Pay raises in jobs other than teaching are also di...Pay raises in jobs other than teaching are also dismal or non-existent. My husband gets an outstanding review every year but has not had a merit raise since 2007. My son works three jobs to make ends meet, two of which are teaching positions within the public education system. He has received some salary increases/bonuses in one of his public teaching positions but he has not had a raise in SEVEN years from his private sector job at movie theater. SEVEN YEARS! My daughter, who will be a college sophmore next year, can't find work other than unpaid internships. Personally, I am making a lot more money by being self-employed right now because the type of corporate jobs that I am qualified for pay less than they did 10 years ago. All that said, I am not saying this teacher doesn't deserve better but he needs to realize that in this economy it's not all about him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-14745554182018747152014-05-13T19:33:21.446-04:002014-05-13T19:33:21.446-04:00They have masters degrees and have worked in NC fo...They have masters degrees and have worked in NC for over 30 years. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-54118305630118918722014-05-13T19:31:13.328-04:002014-05-13T19:31:13.328-04:00The problem is CMS does not pay teachers. The stat...The problem is CMS does not pay teachers. The state pays teachers. Not well but that's who is charged with state salaries. I think that is part of the problem. Pay should be local. Break up these super districts and give local areas more choice. I wouldn't mind paying more for my local schools. I just don't want to pay for all. Regardless, NC was always seen as a bright spot in education. It helped us have a competitive edge over SC and other southern states. I fear all the bad national press and infighting is hurting NC. I was asked about low teacher pay in an airport in New Jersey. Looks may not be every thing..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-15130665684140536032014-05-13T18:41:38.245-04:002014-05-13T18:41:38.245-04:00Raises should go to only those employees at the sc...Raises should go to only those employees at the school house, working on the front lines.<br /><br />Cut CMS overhead and highly paid Admin offices.<br /><br />Cut transportation services.<br /><br />CMS, I just save you about $10 - $15 million a year. <br /><br />(I am curious why are PE teachers being paid $63,000 year though?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-73361195890857424132014-05-13T17:51:22.477-04:002014-05-13T17:51:22.477-04:00I am with you Will, this is not NC. I knew all the...I am with you Will, this is not NC. I knew all these Yankees would ruin NC. Teachers don't have unions and on our end we should pay them a fare wage. I don't now what the hell is going on. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-48077208778184297312014-05-13T17:37:31.413-04:002014-05-13T17:37:31.413-04:00What has happened to NC? Regardless of your belief...What has happened to NC? Regardless of your belief, there should be a respect towards your fellow man. Shame on NC. Did anybody read the opinion page? This is not the NC I grew up in. These are not my daddies Republicans. This is not how people should treat each other. Shame on NC. I always thought that liberal's where mean spirited. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-7449405211018099692014-05-13T15:59:29.135-04:002014-05-13T15:59:29.135-04:00Shamash, I am so glad and honored that you respond...Shamash, I am so glad and honored that you responded to me because I have a comment and request for you...<br /><br />Instead of using innuendo and your playful use of "politically correct" terms, why don't you (and/or Wiley C.) just come out and say what you really want to say? Please stop beating around the bush and just come out and say what you think is wrong with CMS, what is wrong with certain <i>students</i> at CMS, what is wrong with certain <i>parents</i> at CMS, etc… I think we all have an idea what you think is the problem, however, please do share specifically your thoughts. I think your message is getting lost. In addition, please also enlighten us on a general plan to fix it. Just curious. Thank you.Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-88761842440291167322014-05-13T15:38:52.273-04:002014-05-13T15:38:52.273-04:00Will,
I think you should let the teachers know wh...Will,<br /><br />I think you should let the teachers know what you are doing for twice the pay and less work.<br /><br />It's cruel to leave them hanging like that.Shamashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886687970259841873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-74953632316074946552014-05-13T15:37:12.073-04:002014-05-13T15:37:12.073-04:00I wish everyone who frequents this blog could have...I wish everyone who frequents this blog could have a sit down and listen to Ms. Guzman describing the sordid inner workings and cronyism of CMS. Her comment here says more about the current and past state of affairs than anything the past five superintendents ever said. Finally, a crack in the veil of silence. Thank you Ms. Guzman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-48789366469346557662014-05-13T15:28:49.107-04:002014-05-13T15:28:49.107-04:00For all the commenters who are whining that teache...For all the commenters who are whining that teachers "shouldn't" complain about their pay because they get summers off? That is funny to me. I work in the private sector, make <i>double</i> what teachers make in this state and I can <b>GUARANTEE</b> you that I do NOT work as hard as teachers do. It's a broken system. This state does not value education. <br /><br />If your only argument is that teachers should be happy because they get their summers off, then that is a weak position and idiotic thinking. If you want your summers off and 2 weeks off during Christmas, then become a teacher! Please stop being miserable and hating on others just because you don't get enough time off from your own job. <br /><br />I support teachers and I don't even have children. Thank you teachers for all that you do!!!Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020455191286536580.post-20325714540357405102014-05-13T15:05:48.606-04:002014-05-13T15:05:48.606-04:00Hey Shamash... Why don't you just come out and...Hey Shamash... Why don't you just come out and say what you really want to say? Please stop using innuendo and referencing "PC" terms. Just tell everybody what you think is the problem and while you are at it, provide us with a solution to fix it. Thanks.Willnoreply@blogger.com