Wednesday, October 29, 2014

ALEC gives N.C. education policy a C+

The American Legislative Exchange Council has graded every state on its education policy -- and North Carolina received a C+.

But the conservative group commonly referred to as ALEC had higher praise for the state legislature in 2013. They praised laws that mandated A-F letter grades for schools and private school voucher programs.

"North Carolina lawmakers went big and broad in 2013," their report says.

ALEC gave the state middling grades in most areas it evaluated, including the "regulation burden" on home schools and the state's charter school law. North Carolina got an A in private school choice, likely a reaction to that voucher program that's currently in limbo.

The state received an F in "exiting ineffective teachers."

The state had received a C in 2010, 2011 and 2012. ALEC is known for giving model legislation to state lawmakers.

North Carolina's overall grade also took into account student performance on the National Assessment of Educational Progress, a math and reading exam given to fourth and eighth graders. By that measure, ALEC ranked North Carolina at No. 16 in the country.

Indiana received the highest grade, with a B+. North Dakota ranked at the bottom with a D.

See the whole report card for yourself here. Look at every state here.

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

CMS, and other school districts I suppose, have complicated the processes of teaching and learning so much I wonder when the teachers are going to tell "them" no more, let us teach and do our job.

Anonymous said...

ALEC rating public schools is like a fox rating the hen house before dinner. Why do they hate America?

Anonymous said...

ALEC is a danger to students, teachers and learning. Any legislators who follow this ignorance need to go.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
ALEC is a danger to students, teachers and learning. Any legislators who follow this ignorance need to go.

And Common Core is any better?

Reasonable Intelligence said...

Alec's rating is an absolute joke. No state should take this poll seriously.

Anonymous said...

Corruption going on with CMS principals is the known joke. Passing students with a 50 average and over 40 absences is a joke. They do this because of the cohort graduation rate from MOrrison and their bonus / performance observation.

Teachers at every high school know what is going on. Just ask, Dunn, after you put down the cookie and kool aide.

Epirus Highland said...

Who give a hoot what ALEC thinks about the NC public school system ?! I do not vote for them, not that they need my vote vs. the $millions that they get... I do vote though for any public elected official. Should I go ahead and ask the rhetoric question on what do I think is more important to them ? Based on the results, Raleigh is more concerned having a passing grade from ALEC on every issue, or whatever is that ALEC defines it as such.

Anonymous said...

Not sure there's much of a regulatory burden on charter schools when you can sit on the board of a charter school while making money renting them equipment, facilities, etc. Those that have failed have taken their taxpayer dollars with them. ALEC supporting private enterprise at taxpayer expense isn't good policy!

Anonymous said...

Only around 10 tenured teachers in North Carolina are fired each year. Even though many teachers are good, there is very little accountability. A lot of teachers are simply punching the clock. ALEC points this out and they get denounced by all the teachers and liberals who hang out in this chat room. Instead of attacking the messenger, does anybody have a suggestion on how to improve accountability?

Anonymous said...

Who cares.. Jeb Bush and his cronies made Common Core. Obama and his cronies forced it down states throats. DC should stay out of NC.

Anonymous said...

CMS classrooms are filled with non qualified teachers, lateral entry washouts and long term subs.

Nobody intelligent wants to work in a thankless dead end job with marginal benefits package.

What are you going to do if you get rid of the tenured teachers? Fill the classroom with the bus drivers that are losing their job ?

Anonymous said...

5:36 unless you have the data to back up your statement, please never post again.

Anonymous said...

The Republicans are finally right - schools ARE broken - and THEY broke them!

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone report on anything that ALEC releases? It would be hard to find a more biased and agenda driven propaganda. Maybe Putin's state run news outlets, but that is about it.

NC should be ranked low, but not because of what ALEC claims. Because of the extreme GOP nuts that have slashed education funding, taken assistants out of 2nd and 3rd grade classrooms, increased class sizes dramatically, chased off our best teachers, and done the same to the once mighty (and economic driver) UNC system. ALEC claims these nuts didn't do enough....enough damage. Geez.

Anonymous said...

Andrew,

I've asked you in the past if you were just going to hold Anne's spot and do fluff pieces or do you intend to pursue an actual career in journalism. Just like many of the other commenter’s have mentioned the real story is a corrupt administration.

As a teacher at South Meck High School I am very concerned about the policy changes that are being made that do not have the support of the faculty.

1. If a student is found cheating we are no longer allowed to give the student a grade of 0 for the assignment but instead must provide the student with a retake opportunity.
2. According to our Principal the term "insubordination" can no longer be defined. The overall discipline policy has become a joke and we experience fights on campus as a daily activity.
3. Teachers are consistently being pressured to pass students who have failing grades.
4. The attendance policy has been completely corrupted due to the fact that the administration grants every student an attendance appeal no matter how much class time is missed.
5. The administration is no longer enforcing dress code and tardy policies.

While these policy appeal to the parents of kids who are undisciplined, disrespectful and come to school to disrupt the education of others, parents who want their children to come to school to learn in a safe and professional environment should be appalled.

Wiley Coyote said...

7:03

Thank you for your service and fact based, firsthand account of the real CMS and public school in general.

Many of us know what you see and are going through and unfortunately it's been that way not just here, but in many other schools and districts across this country for decades.

Anonymous said...

7:03 Thank you, many parents support the teachers and are trying to do right with their children at home. I'm afraid we are in the minority now.

The parents also expect that an education institution, such as a public high school, will hold their students accountable and uphold the policies for the benefit and safety of ALL. That is even more important to one's education as what they're learning in the classroom.

Keep up the good work and doing the right thing for our kids, even though those around you in charge apparently are not.

Anonymous said...

Andrew,

As Anon 7:03 states, the high school students in our community are being "educated" in an environment where the rules are being selectively enforced, at best.

How can we as adults expect the "high school students" to behave and be respectful as adults in the community when the adults in charge of our "public education" in CMS don't hold these students accountable for their actions. If not in high school, when will these students learn that rules need to be followed in order to be a productive member of society????

This is not unique to South Meck high school, but is present CMS-wide.....

Anonymous said...

7:03,

As a parent at another "highly praised" South Charlotte high school, it pains me to say, but what you share isn't unique to your high school. It is so disappointing to hear how wide spread this lack of accountability is throughout our public school system.

The teachers are simply presenters of information in the public school classrooms, whether or not the students actually learn anything is another matter all together. The students will be pushed through either way.

Anonymous said...

thank obama and holder for the downgrade in enforcing discipline policy with all their disproportionate suspension rate garbage...........

we have to have "conversations" with kids now at the administrator level instead of just suspending the guilty.... the same conversations teachers probably already had with kids before booting them...

we have been told that we are now not only offending students due to being racially insensitive, but are violating their civil rights by suspending them.

Anonymous said...

Andrew,

What chance is there that you would take it upon yourself to independently verify what is being stated in the prior comments?

IF this is true, Charlotte needs to hear more about this. If it's not true, you can put this all to rest, as well.

Anonymous said...

11:08,

I agree with you that obama and holder must take some of the blame for this situation. CMS must as well, because things within their control aren't being controlled.

Athletes switching schools against CMS regulations for the sake of their athletic careers, and athletes without the grades to play sports, being allowed to play.

Rules are selectively enforced to avoid negatively impacting the "starters" on CMS athletic teams. What is this teaching these future adults?

And we wonder why Chapel Hill is embroiled in their latest athletic controversy, and when professional athletes can't behave once their in the NFL, NBA, etc....

Go figure....

Anonymous said...

changing the subject, what happened to the middle school student who was hit by a car a couple of days ago early in the morning?

Anonymous said...

Discipline has become a joke. Graduated and test scores at all cost. Eric Holder wrote a letter threatening schools. CMS lost money last year for suspending too many minority student that are in special education. Principals that discipline have been removed. Teachers are being held responsible for student's behavior. This is not new.. This mess is coming out of DC and Raleigh. Education is a state right. Raleigh needs to stand up to DC and support it's teachers. I do not have a problem with my children's teachers. It's the people in offices that have very little interaction with children that bother me.

Anonymous said...

Journalism is dead.. They all cow tail to something...

Anonymous said...

Cow tail. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Kow tow

You people know juuuuuust enough to be dangerous...

Anonymous said...

HA Ha.. You people.. Really.. F off. 5:29..

Anonymous said...

5:44 Sorry, did your French benefits run out since it's the end of the month?

Stay classy!

Anonymous said...

French benefits?

Anonymous said...

6:01 seems to be lacking in class...

Anonymous said...

read back a few posts...guy put cow tail when he meant kow tow. I called him on it. He told me to f off (classy). I replied with another misunderstood phrase "french" benefits (fringe benefits) asking him to stay classy.

Let's get back to the real problem here - that our replacement Southern Democract legislators (who are now the majority republicans with the same prejudices and hatreds) are using ALEC as a way to destroy our state and monetize learning. Give their big money peeps tax cuts and cry that there is no money left for anything else. Give teachers a HUGE RAISE (best Hagan move - telling people to ask a teacher) which was total and utter crap.

disgusting. And our voters who know juuuuuuuust enough to be dangerous voted these people into power. Phil Berger, Thom Tillis, et al.

I read a cool quote recently. "Set your clocks back 1 hour on Sunday, but don't set the state back 50 more years on Tuesday."

Anonymous said...

I believe Republicans have done something's well. We need to balance our budget. If we do not we will run into issues like California and Michigan. If we are not competitive with our tax rates, we will loose jobs. I don't agree with their attacks on teachers. Most teachers tell me Republicans and Democrats have been neglectful. Hagen has had her day.. She has been a rubber stamp for Obama. The affordable care act (should be caps) is a nightmare. Who ever voted for it should be gone. Republican or Democrat.

Anonymous said...

Lose.

And Berger, tillis are rubber stamps for ALEC.

Way to put us over $800 million into a hole...oh did you mean the republicans balanced our budget? I'm sorry facts seem to contradict that...

And the last time republicans truly did something for the middle class was...?

No, they provide for their own, and try to suppress others.

Hey, maybe our esteemed republican legislators will try to institute a state religion...again....

Anonymous said...

Sorry, predictive text.. I have never really been good with the cellphone.

I don't love all things Republican. I really have a distain for most politicians. I was hopeful when Obama and Hagen discussed change. It has not worked out. Republican states are doing well. Compare the big boys, California and Texas. Our state needs jobs. It is a competition. Even Obama has discussed lowering the corporate tax rate. As for ALEC or any of the other out of state groups... Go away. I am not concerned with their opinion. Have a goodnight.

Shamash said...

"While these policy appeal to the parents of kids who are undisciplined, disrespectful and come to school to disrupt the education of others, parents who want their children to come to school to learn in a safe and professional environment should be appalled."

We are appalled.

And I have been for over 40 years now. But it doesn't seem to matter much. The well-behaved and those who are "expected" to do well can be safely ignored by our society.

We need to care more about those who might riot if they don't get what they want.

This is the culmination of all that has come before with the PC crowd finally in control for good it seems.

Discipline in school (and I don't mean "punishment", I really mean "discipline" as in self-control) is now a thing of the past.

Too many "disabled" and "exceptional" children out there needing "our" help, or so they say.

The kids who are well-behaved and interested in learning are an easy target for them, too.

One thing I really liked about finally getting to a private college is that the "public school" BS stopped at the door.

NO thugs or discipline problems (or even tardiness) was tolerated.

Of course, the fact that you had to pay some "big bucks" to go to class helped, too.

Yes, they were an "intolerant" bunch when it came to discipline problems, but it sure helped us learn and stay focused in class.

Someone joked about setting the state back 50 years through the vote.

I wonder if we could do that for the whole nation in some areas.

Say, sometime before the failed Great Society experiment began...

LBJ won that battle. He got the Democrat vote for eternity.

He got the big one for "democracy" after showing everyone how to vote themselves more money.

Can we just stop the crap now?

The funds are getting low.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't a joke.

Funds tend to get low when republicans vote huge tax cuts for the rich.

And as far as republican states, they are, with a few exceptions, the states that take in more federal money - they are the welfare states.

Is that hypocrisy or irony? Nope, tragedy.

Shamash said...

"And as far as republican states, they are, with a few exceptions, the states that take in more federal money - they are the welfare states."

As one of the "few" that pay into the system, I don't care WHO gets the booty, whether Republican or Democrat or Communist, hawk or dove.

I still don't like the welfare state. And people being able to vote themselves more money.

And that goes for our drummed-up defense spending as much as the other welfare programs.

People who really want to avoid US taxes just renounce their citizenship, as hundreds or thousands of "rich" and the not-so-rich do every year.

The "tax breaks" for the "rich" hardly matter that much in comparison to what they pay.

Especially when compared to people who don't pay.

After all, you can't get a tax "break" if you don't pay taxes.

So more power to the "rich" if they get a break.

Anonymous said...

There's no way around it folks, it is the rich who pay the taxes.

You want more of their "funds"? I find that quite ironic.

Anonymous said...

this is the group that gives the republican politicians coch and you can really believe what they say? They are trying to buy every politician they can.